[the hog]

Vul vs NV Imps

From the same bidding forum -

(1H) 1S (P) ?

92
5
AJ543
KQ652

[655321]

I would bid 2♦.

If partner has 4 cards in the minor we don't bid, 2♣ will work better, allowing partner an easy 2♦ bid. But if partner has a stronger hand, I would rather have bid my suits in the natural order.

[mike777]

The_Hog, on May 4 2010, 08:13 PM, said:

Vul vs NV Imps

From the same bidding forum -

(1H)  1S  (P)  ?

92
5
AJ543
KQ652

2d non force......but reasonable values.

I grant I expect pard to have a full real opening bid very often.

[rogerclee]

2C

I guess we will have a slightly worse auction if partner bids 2N, or if LHO bids 2H, but overall I would rather just get to my 9 card minor fit, and if partner will pass, I would rather have clubs than diamonds be my trump suit, all else being equal.

[Phil]

rogerclee, on May 4 2010, 08:43 PM, said:

2C

x2

[655321]

rogerclee, on May 4 2010, 09:43 PM, said:

and if partner will pass, I would rather have clubs than diamonds be my trump suit, all else being equal.

True, that is another point in favor of 2♣.

[jillybean]

2♦, forcing

[rbforster]

Anyone for 2♠? Heavy on values, short on trump but still a ruffing value.

2♣ for me tho.

[the hog]

Yes, anyone for a Marshall Miles 2S bid?

[jdonn]

2♠? No thank you. I like 2♣.

[Jlall]

I don't understand all the 2C wizards. Lefty is bidding 2H very often...we have a stiff! If lefty is going to bid 2H I would much rather have bid 2D.

In the unlikely event that LHO is not bidding anything, partner often has a good hand and might bid 2H or 2N. In either case I would rather have bid 2D since a 5-3 diamond fit might be our right spot.

The idea that you will find a 5-4 diamond fit by bidding 2C because partner is going to bid 2D seems to ignore the fact that if we have 9 diamonds, LHO will bid 2H, and now finding diamonds will be extremely hard.

[Codo]

2 ♦ > 2 ♠ nothing else matters... 2 ♣ is hoping for a miracle.

[dake50]

1N an artificial force (as 1N F1 in 2/1) less than GF Q-bid.
Let partner announce his 2nd suit - our minor fit found;
NT with H-stop 13+;
Q-bid 2H/X if he has no clear max.

[CSGibson]

dake50, on May 5 2010, 08:05 AM, said:

1N an artificial force (as 1N F1 in 2/1) less than GF Q-bid.
Let partner announce his 2nd suit - our minor fit found;
NT with H-stop 13+;
Q-bid 2H/X if he has no clear max.

I've never heard of anyone playing 1N forcing opposite an overcall, which is what I think you are suggesting. I would bid 2♦ and not think much of it, really.

[Phil]

CSGibson, on May 5 2010, 10:09 AM, said:

I've never heard of anyone playing 1N forcing opposite an overcall, which is what I think you are suggesting.

Jeff Rubens suggested this years ago.

[whereagles]

I'll pray for a miracle and bid 2♣

[Free]

2♣ for me.

[hanp]

I would also make what I think is the "normal" 2D bid. Too many likely auctions in which the fancier bids could backfire.

I didn't know Marshall Miles would bid 2S. I find that pretty strange given how often he wants to overcall 1S on a 4-card suit. Actually, I find it pretty strange that anybody might want to bid 2S.

[cherdanno]

Phil, on May 5 2010, 10:13 AM, said:

CSGibson, on May 5 2010, 10:09 AM, said:

I've never heard of anyone playing 1N forcing opposite an overcall, which is what I think you are suggesting.

Jeff Rubens suggested this years ago.

Doesn't sound like a contradiction to me!

[bluecalm]

2♦. Maybe I will have a chance to show ♣ later.
I hope this is non forcing (overcaller may pass with hand up to 9-10hcp or something like that). Some of my partners want to play it as forcing. My opinion is that even if you agree to play it as unlimited, forcing it's still right to pass as overcaller with weakish hand.