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Partner opens a strong NT and the auction proceeds...
1NT (P) 2♦ (X)
P (P) ?
Your hand:
♠Axx
♥A10xxx
♦Jxxx
♣A
Partners pass of 2♦ shows a doubleton
At the table I bid a pragmatic 3nt IMO
Anyone have other views?
Regards, James.
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Posted 2010-June-09, 06:20
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Posted 2010-June-09, 06:23
sounds good to me
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-June-09, 06:36
I'd try the blue first
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Posted 2010-June-09, 07:32
I play that redouble is a retransfer, and to me it sounds like redouble followed by 3NT still shows interest in playing 4H. We don't have interest in playing 4H, we want to play 3NT, so I wouldn't redouble.
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Posted 2010-June-09, 08:21
This is a great dummy for spades! I'll redouble and then bid 3♦.
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Posted 2010-June-09, 08:27
I wouldn't redouble. I also dont think I'll get to spades on this auction, so I'd just bid 3NT
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Posted 2010-June-09, 08:31
James_H, on Jun 9 2010, 07:20 AM, said:
Partner opens a strong NT and the auction proceeds...
1NT (P) 2♦ (X)
P (P) ?
Your hand:
♠Axx
♥A10xxx
♦Jxxx
♣A
Partners pass of 2♦ shows a doubleton
At the table I bid a pragmatic 3nt IMO
Anyone have other views?
Regards, James.
1NT (P) 2♦ (X)
P (P) ?
Your hand:
♠Axx
♥A10xxx
♦Jxxx
♣A
Partners pass of 2♦ shows a doubleton
At the table I bid a pragmatic 3nt IMO
Anyone have other views?
Regards, James.
given the strength of your hand a XX to play is a possiblity.
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Posted 2010-June-09, 08:57
If I would play that partner's pass shows a doubleton (which I don't), there must be a reason why I play that.
Basically, Jacoby transfers are used for responder to describe his hand. Opener just sits and waits and finally picks the contract. In such a system, it is useful for responder to keep describing and to use the redouble as part of the description.
The same philosophy applies in a system where pass shows/denies a diamond stopper.
In OP's system, however, opener is describing his hand in terms of distribution (2,3, or 4 hearts). That means that it is useful for responder to take part in the decision about the final contract. Then it makes sense to play redouble for business. In this case, opener did not only show a doubleton heart, but also showed at least three diamonds (unless he could have a 4225 or 3226 distribution).
If I would play that partner's pass shows a doubleton and thus (at least) three diamonds, I would redouble for business. Yummy!
Of course, the real fun starts when 3NT goes down on the diamond lead (LHO has AKQTx), but 2♦XX makes on the nose.
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Basically, Jacoby transfers are used for responder to describe his hand. Opener just sits and waits and finally picks the contract. In such a system, it is useful for responder to keep describing and to use the redouble as part of the description.
The same philosophy applies in a system where pass shows/denies a diamond stopper.
In OP's system, however, opener is describing his hand in terms of distribution (2,3, or 4 hearts). That means that it is useful for responder to take part in the decision about the final contract. Then it makes sense to play redouble for business. In this case, opener did not only show a doubleton heart, but also showed at least three diamonds (unless he could have a 4225 or 3226 distribution).
If I would play that partner's pass shows a doubleton and thus (at least) three diamonds, I would redouble for business. Yummy!
Of course, the real fun starts when 3NT goes down on the diamond lead (LHO has AKQTx), but 2♦XX makes on the nose.
Rik
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Posted 2010-June-09, 09:11
Trinidad, on Jun 9 2010, 09:57 AM, said:
If I would play that partner's pass shows a doubleton (which I don't), there must be a reason why I play that.
The reason is so that when RHO competes in diamonds (they often do at tables where I play) you have a good idea of whether or not you should also compete.
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Posted 2010-June-09, 09:29
If redouble showed a willingness to try to make 2♦ I'd bid that. It's game at the 2 level with skyrocket prices for overtricks! And anyway the redouble is not an obligation to pass, partner could bid 3NT or 2♥ or 2♠, to show his diamonds are not adequate for the 2 level game contract.
Isn't the doubleton partner showed in hearts?
Isn't the doubleton partner showed in hearts?
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2010-June-09, 18:58
if blue for penalties is an option (op didn't say) i'm all in favour of wielding it. partner isn't forced to pass it if he's got xxx or on a bad day xx and a 4225 shape or 3226 shape.
if penalties blue is not an option, i'll wield it anyway to elicit more info, unless it's a retransfer - we could be off the whole diamond suit for 3nt and we can always get to 3nt later.
if penalties blue is not an option, i'll wield it anyway to elicit more info, unless it's a retransfer - we could be off the whole diamond suit for 3nt and we can always get to 3nt later.
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Posted 2010-June-09, 19:14
With a stiff C, I fancy my chances at 2Dxx. Many people x on rubbish, eg Kxxxx or similar.
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Posted 2010-June-10, 10:57
3d --- should be crystal clear you need a dia stop for 3n. If p cannot produce dia stop you pretty much have to settle for 4h and hope p has a doubleton
dia (KQ or KJ of hearts) and hearts break 33 slim pickings but better than nothing. Even if you happen to play xx as a willingness to try 2d this is a huge gamble since the very help you need from p to have a shot at making 2d might allow you to make 3n. Bidding 3n here is somewhat like looking down the barrel of a howitzer and saying fire after you have been warned it is in good firing condition and loaded.
dia (KQ or KJ of hearts) and hearts break 33 slim pickings but better than nothing. Even if you happen to play xx as a willingness to try 2d this is a huge gamble since the very help you need from p to have a shot at making 2d might allow you to make 3n. Bidding 3n here is somewhat like looking down the barrel of a howitzer and saying fire after you have been warned it is in good firing condition and loaded.
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