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#1 User is offline   gnasher 

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Posted 2011-February-06, 13:27


Board-a-match, playing 2/1

Do you agree so far?
What do you do now?

This post has been edited by gnasher: 2011-February-06, 14:34

... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-February-06, 14:00

What system am I playing that I responded 1NT with a 10-count and a 6 card suit? Maybe if I had bid my hand the first time I would have more idea what to do now.
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Posted 2011-February-06, 14:09

Vampyr said:

What system am I playing that I responded 1NT with a 10-count and a 6 card suit? Maybe if I had bid my hand the first time I would have more idea what to do now.

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Posted 2011-February-06, 14:21

Agree so far.

Easy pass, partner is allowed to stretch for game with 6-5.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:

- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.


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Posted 2011-February-06, 14:36

View PostVampyr, on 2011-February-06, 14:00, said:

What system am I playing that I responded 1NT with a 10-count and a 6 card suit? Maybe if I had bid my hand the first time I would have more idea what to do now.

2/1. I've edited the original post.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-February-06, 14:50

View Postgnasher, on 2011-February-06, 14:36, said:

2/1. I've edited the original post.


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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:

- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.


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Posted 2011-February-06, 23:49

View PostOleBerg, on 2011-February-06, 14:21, said:

Agree so far.

Easy pass, partner is allowed to stretch for game with 6-5.


Is partner allowed to rebid hearts when we could be 0-3 in the majors when he is 6-5, and when we have equal length in the majors we will convert?
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Posted 2011-February-07, 00:39

View Postgnasher, on 2011-February-06, 13:27, said:


Board-a-match, playing 2/1

Do you agree so far?
What do you do now?


Agree.
Probably pass, if pd had
he would have opened 2C.
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Posted 2011-February-07, 05:28

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-February-06, 23:49, said:

Is partner allowed to rebid hearts when we could be 0-3 in the majors when he is 6-5, and when we have equal length in the majors we will convert?


Sorry, I'm so used to my artificial follow up to 1-1NT.

My point is; with a distributional hand, partner is allowed to stretch for game.
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Posted 2011-February-08, 06:45

We've seen an example of what partner doesn't have. What sort of hand does he have?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-February-08, 08:14

he is either 6-4 with very good spades, or any 7+-4 that is worth a force to game. In practice he would probably not offer hearts if 8-4 I think, unless his spades were pretty bad.

e.g. KQJT9x AQJx Ax x would be enough IMO. Or KQT9xxx AQJx A x.

I think that you should probably consider a slam move. My 3h bids tend to be quite heavy. But I am not sure that you should actually make one. I think i am worth a try tbh, but its not at all clear to me what i should do. should 5c be values here? or ace showing, or first and second equally? Might partner misunderstand 5h as natural? The uncertainty means I would not make one even though I might be worth one.
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Posted 2011-February-08, 08:47

Partner will usually have a 6+4 shape so AK rates to be very useful. 5 should be cuebid for without control in the minors, there seems to be no point in converting to a 4-3 fit (at best), even with a void in . Sign me up for 5. Hopefully partner didn't jump shift on a good hand with AQJ or so, then this could be bad.
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Posted 2011-February-08, 09:03

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-February-06, 23:49, said:

Is partner allowed to rebid hearts when we could be 0-3 in the majors when he is 6-5, and when we have equal length in the majors we will convert?


But getting forced in 4 when responder has a more likely 1-2 or possibly 2-3?
In general as responder I would rarely rebid 3NT with 3 cards in and almost never with 0-3.

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Posted 2011-February-08, 10:58

View Postjschafer, on 2011-February-08, 08:47, said:

Partner will usually have a 6+4 shape so AK rates to be very useful. 5 should be cuebid for without control in the minors, there seems to be no point in converting to a 4-3 fit (at best), even with a void in . Sign me up for 5.


Yeh, this requires trust. Would try 5H with reg pard or (other)top-notch pard. I can't think of any J.S. to 3H which doesn't have some minor suit controls. He only has 13 points possible in his allegedly 6-4 major suits.

Edited to add the word "other" in parentheses before she kicked my butt

This post has been edited by aguahombre: 2011-February-08, 11:02

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