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#1 User is offline   catch22 

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Posted 2011-March-13, 04:08

IMPS

2NT would be lebenshol

What do you bid?
What would you bid if you were 30 up going into the last 8 board set and had just had two flat boards?
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Posted 2011-March-13, 06:23

2♠, regardless of the score.

I have no idea whether 2♥ was opened in the other room, so there's no scope for trying to duplicate the action in the other room, even if I wanted to.
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Posted 2011-March-13, 06:27

2S obv, don't see any alternative
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Posted 2011-March-13, 09:30

So it's only we matchpoint addicts who are passing?

I admit it's not a 100% clearcut action especially if partner is light.
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Posted 2011-March-13, 10:00

Passing is crazy
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Posted 2011-March-13, 10:58

I'd pass if I were 30 down.
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Posted 2011-March-13, 11:18

lol @ pass

2♠ is wtp imo
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Posted 2011-March-13, 13:09

Tough hand.

Pass, 2♠ and 3NT are all options.

Much will depend on opponents style, and how light partner can be. And how freely partner doubles with only 3 spades.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:

- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.

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Posted 2011-March-13, 15:30

I lean towards 2♠ also, downgrading for awaful shape and honnors.
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Posted 2011-March-13, 15:42

View PostFluffy, on 2011-March-13, 15:30, said:

I lean towards 2♠ also, downgrading for awaful shape and honnors.


Downgrading from what - i.e. what would you bid if you weren't downgrading?
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2011-March-14, 00:05

View Post655321, on 2011-March-13, 15:42, said:

Downgrading from what - i.e. what would you bid if you weren't downgrading?


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Posted 2011-March-14, 01:37

from the question i'm guessing someone thought his heart holding was worth more than 1 trick and passed, helping to piss away a 30 imp lead.
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Posted 2011-March-14, 04:01

Pass.

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Posted 2011-March-14, 05:04

Passing may hit the jackpot, but I'm settling with 2♠, as pard might be doubling on a very marginal hand, say 11 hcp with some 5440.
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Posted 2011-March-14, 08:12

2♠, what else?
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Posted 2011-March-15, 02:53

View Post655321, on 2011-March-13, 15:42, said:

Downgrading from what - i.e. what would you bid if you weren't downgrading?

there are 9 counts I'd bid 3m with on a 4 card suit.
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Posted 2011-March-15, 21:54

I dont try to tell that i know the answer to this one, all i know that i hate the Lebensohl convention right now :lol: .
But that 2♠ is a WTP solution, how? U bidding 3 card suit, i would understand it if there really is no choice. Pass is one of them, is it a good one i dont know, but it is an alternative. After 2♠ u may very well be playing 3-3 trump and even in Moysian fit u will be taking second ♥ruff in long trump and be victim of an over ruff.
Ok if prd is bidding distributional 11- count, defending 2♥dbl aint such a great idea either.
What am i going to do.... Pass
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Posted 2011-March-16, 10:27

Passing is a great start to give away your 30 imps lead imo. Not only they can make, but also partner may have a big hand and started dbl with where we actually have a good minor fit. Oooops 2♥ dbled made or down 1 or 2, while we are cold for slam or at least game.

I bid 2♠, and yes we may play 3-3 ♠, but they dunno that, it aint picnic walk to dbl 2♠. And whatever happens to 2♠, i am expecting it will be a push. Whether pass works or not, i don't think it will be a push board.
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Posted 2011-March-16, 14:00

One reason it's unlikely to be a flat board is that 30-imp-down weak twos often look completely different to 30-imp-up weak twos.
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Posted 2011-March-16, 14:33

2NT Lebensohl, then sign off in 3NT. 30+ and red, my partner doesn't double lightly.
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