[enge46]

You are Vul the opps are not and the bidding has gone 1C, 2S(by partner), 3C. What do you bid, or do you pass with:
AQx
KJ82
K98
872

[Hanoi5]

It would be nice to know about the scoring.

It would be great to know partner's style. If I understood the bidding properly it went:

(1♣)-2♠-(3♣)-???

So partner's 2♠ is a wjo showing an equivalent of a weak 2 opening. His spades are KJTxxx at best and being vulnerable I suppose he should have something on the side. If he has ♥AQ and a singleton club (which presupposes opponents have a 9-card fit) he can make 10 tricks on a small club lead. If he has ♠KJ and ♥A, doubleton club and tripleton diamonds, then we're only makiong 8 tricks. In MP's -200 is the kiss of death so I suppose you'd be more careful then, but in general you want to compete. 3♠ would be my choice unless partner is known to do this on very bad hands.

[bluecalm]

Looks like very clear 3♠ unless you are playing constructive jumps then 4♠. Difficult to comment on this really, seems obvious.

[billw55]

In my style, 2♠ shows a hand that isn't good enough to bid 1♠, so partner cannot hold any ace. That puts 4♠ right out, so I compete with 3♠.

[nige1]

enge46, on 2011-June-17, 06:46, said:

You are Vul the opps are not and the bidding has gone 1C, 2S(by partner), 3C. What do you bid, or do you pass with: AQx KJ82 K98 872

Agree that 2♠ seems best . IMO 3♠ = 10, _X (Hearts) = 8, 4♠ = 6, _P = 4

[pooltuna]

this is a clear 4♠ call playing IMPs and a near odds on call of 3♠ at MP

[Phil]

I like 4♠. We are r/w so I don't think KJTxxxx is enough, and would expect another big card. I'm also expecting little wastage with my ♣xxx.

[MrAce]

I am a 3♠ bidder, yes pd bid vuln and he has to have another good card, and yes maybe our xxx♣ looks very good vs a stiff, so let pd have

KJT9xx
xxx
Axx
x

KJTxxx
Axx
xxx
x

KJTxxx
xx
Axxx
x

I am still not very happy in 4♠, considering my LHO opened. And this is after all my wish came true, stiff ♣, another huge card..There will be hands opponents bid 3♣ due to pressure, not because they have such a great fit. We need more than just another big card + stiff vs our xxx to justify game bid imo.

[Phil]

Timo, read my post more closely. Unless our preempting styles are that different, I would not bid 2♠ r/w with KJT-6th and an outside card. I probably would with your 3rd example where I am 6-4, but game is excellent there. Even in your 1st two examples, game is playable with the likely low club out.

[MrAce]

Phil, on 2011-June-17, 13:01, said:

. Even in your 1st two examples, game is playable with the likely low club out.

Ok sry i didnt see u mentioned a third card...but....KJT9xx Qxx Axx x i never thought one would consider this as a preempt hand even when red, where i came from, this is 1 level opener and clear 1♠ overcall if they open b4 us, perhaps my pd would not even dream of game had opponents not raise ♣ suit and we could miss a vuln game.