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Show stoppers or crappy 6-card suit?
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Posted 2011-November-10, 11:45
Most Souths bid 4♥ over 2NT, got doubled and played there, so in that auction and this one EW never bid their 10-card master suit...
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Posted 2011-November-10, 14:25
GIB currently wants a twice rebiddable suit before it will show it instead of 2NT. It will only show a rebiddable suit immediately if it doesn't have a diamond stopper.
I take it you think we should reduce that requirement, and always bid a rebiddable suit? Or maybe it should make a negative double (as it would with an even worse suit and no stoppers), since it can always bid NT later if partner doesn't show a fit.
I take it you think we should reduce that requirement, and always bid a rebiddable suit? Or maybe it should make a negative double (as it would with an even worse suit and no stoppers), since it can always bid NT later if partner doesn't show a fit.
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Posted 2011-November-11, 06:27
barmar, on 2011-November-10, 14:25, said:
GIB currently wants a twice rebiddable suit before it will show it instead of 2NT. It will only show a rebiddable suit immediately if it doesn't have a diamond stopper.
It seems like the bot takes the concept of "bidability" a bit far by describing J9xxxx as "3-".
I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones -- Albert Einstein
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Posted 2011-November-11, 20:41
We should just take out the part of that rule that says it shows 3- in the majors. I think it came from an assumption that it would always make a negative double with a 4-card major, but the 2NT bid is taking precedence.
One thing you should know is that in the bidding database, the requirements for a bid are expressed separately from what the bid "shows". This is necessary for a variety of reasons (consider Stayman -- it doesn't show anything specific).
One thing you should know is that in the bidding database, the requirements for a bid are expressed separately from what the bid "shows". This is necessary for a variety of reasons (consider Stayman -- it doesn't show anything specific).
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Posted 2011-November-11, 21:09
This sounds like a question of modern bidding style, which I'm not equipped to answer. I'd rather know about partner's J9xxx, never mind J9xxxx, since he can still bid NT if I don't have a fit...
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