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#21 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2012-May-02, 17:16

View Posthan, on 2012-May-02, 06:20, said:

I understand 6H, but isn't it a bit lazy? Can you possibly have a better hand for partner? I think 6D is called for.


partner has rectified a jump to 5♣ and you only call it lazy?, what trick could we possibly lose? 6♦ is a big underbid.

Congrats to partner for finding a bid I would't find at the table I think.
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Posted 2012-May-02, 17:21

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2012-April-30, 17:54, said:

How do you show a strong 2-suited hand such as:
Sp and the other minor [ I assume 4S = Sp/Cl here over 3D preempt ],
Hts and the other minor [ I assume 4H = Hts/Cl ]
Both Majors [ I assume 4D! = Sp/Hts ] .

I also assume:
( 3m ) - 4C! - ( p ) - 4D! [ asks for long suit ]


We don't have any systemic treatments to show 2 suiters after a 3m overcall (except that 4D is always both majors, strong).

4D is our asking bid over 4C. A direct 4M over 4C says "even though I know you have a strong single-suited hand, I really want to suggest playing here instead". That isn't terribly refined, and it doesn't come up much.
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Posted 2012-May-03, 09:53

I play a graded GSF so after 5♥, 5nt would get a response of 6♣ with the Q♥ or less and 6♦ to show 1 of the top 2.

Not unreasonable to gamble on no club losers on this auction.
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Posted 2012-May-03, 14:48

Can't find that 13th trick with a trump lead. Don't think I can ever score the Ace of clubs. Jules said that earlier in this thread, however. In six, we can just let them ruff it at trick two and go about our business.
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Posted 2012-May-04, 03:43

View Postaguahombre, on 2012-May-03, 14:48, said:

Can't find that 13th trick with a trump lead.


Can you make 13 tricks without a trump lead?
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Posted 2012-May-04, 03:47

Gib can make 13 tricks on any lead, so it's possible, but I admit I don't see how.
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Posted 2012-May-04, 04:26

Oops. It seems I had a blind spot. Don't even need the Ace and King of Diamonds.
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Posted 2012-May-04, 04:44

Ah I see it now, ruff four clubs in hand (high) to establish dummy's clubs. Winning 3 spades (the ace and two ruffs), 6 hearts (the six in your hand), 4 clubs (the last four in dummy).
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Posted 2012-May-04, 04:58

View Postdkham, on 2012-May-04, 04:44, said:

Ah I see it now, ruff four clubs in hand (high) to establish dummy's clubs. Winning 3 spades (the ace and two ruffs), 6 hearts (the six in your hand), 4 clubs (the last four in dummy).


Even thinking about ruffing spades in the long club hand for other thing than using it as an entry is an indicator that you have a problem. Tapping the hand with long suit is a task for defenders.
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Posted 2012-May-04, 06:27

View PostFluffy, on 2012-May-04, 04:58, said:

Even thinking about ruffing spades in the long club hand for other thing than using it as an entry is an indicator that you have a problem. Tapping the hand with long suit is a task for defenders.

True, but if they lead a diamond we could have a little fun ruffing our Ace with a baby trump before we get serious about the task of establishing clubs while drawing trumps and claiming.
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