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Posted 2012-September-06, 04:47

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- Do you agree with the bidding till now?
I was South and had following other options:
1. Bid 4♠ iso 4♣, to play
2. Bid 4♣ iso 3♣, to show slam-interest with ♣ (partner bids 4NT to deny interest).

- Question about the bidding till now:
It is not clear for North if South has a good hand without ♥-control or a hand as above.
Should North always continue with a ♥-control or only with extra's?
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Posted 2012-September-06, 06:20

If South had a good hand with a heart control, South would move past 4S, clearly. Probably 4NT.

There are three remaining options. Good slam hand without heart control, mild slam try with heart control, or mild without heart control.

Thinking logically, I would expect the strongest of these to bypass game, because the issue is probably just control, with probable 5-level safety otherwise. If no safety, is mild.

This leaves mild with and without. Two bids for two holdings. Logic suggests the obvious of 4H mild with, 4S mild without.

Now, judgment is up to you.
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Posted 2012-September-06, 10:39

Good system, well bid.
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Posted 2012-September-07, 14:54


..luckily East did lead ♠A
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Posted 2012-September-08, 05:24

View Postkgr, on 2012-September-06, 04:47, said:

- Question:
Should North always continue with a ♥-control or only with extra's?


Balanced hands with a 2-3 point range do not have extras on slam bidding unless specifically agreed (last train bid), when partner bids 4♠ here is a direct question about heart control and cannot be rejected.
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Posted 2012-September-08, 06:34

BTW, it seems that 6C is the better contract.
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Posted 2012-September-08, 10:05

View PostFluffy, on 2012-September-08, 05:24, said:

Balanced hands with a 2-3 point range do not have extras on slam bidding unless specifically agreed (last train bid), when partner bids 4♠ here is a direct question about heart control and cannot be rejected.


Completely disagree, you can always pass a sign off in 4M.
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Posted 2012-September-08, 11:11

View PostFluffy, on 2012-September-08, 05:24, said:

Balanced hands with a 2-3 point range do not have extras on slam bidding unless specifically agreed (last train bid), when partner bids 4♠ here is a direct question about heart control and cannot be rejected.


I also completely disagree. When assessing suitability for slam in spades a strong balanced hand can have a huge range of potential holdings.

This is a very good 20-count:

AK109x
AK10
Ax
Q10x

This is a very bad 21-count:

AKQJx
QJx
KQ
QJx
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