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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2013-March-07, 16:27

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(2)-double-(3)-??


What do you bid in your partnership?

What do you bid with no agreements?
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Posted 2013-March-07, 16:29

5 in all cases. Bid what I think I can make.

There is just too much information that I would like to convey to partner and no sensible way to convey it. So, at the risk of repeating myself, I will just bid what I think I can make. I don't see a rational way to convey first round control of the opponents' suit and long and strong diamonds.
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Posted 2013-March-07, 17:44

There is just too much potential here to sign off in 5d.
We are looking at 6 if p has as little as xxx KQTx Kx Axxx
and it is unlikely p started with x with that hand so we
can generally expect more. There indeed is no rational
way to show first round spade control and all this firepower
so we bid what we think we can make and bid

6d.
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Posted 2013-March-07, 18:02

6 for me, maybe pd has xx, AKQx, Kxx, Jxxx, bet they lead a spade or a trump :)
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Posted 2013-March-07, 18:08

View Postgszes, on 2013-March-07, 17:44, said:

There is just too much potential here to sign off in 5d.
We are looking at 6 if p has as little as xxx KQTx Kx Axxx
and it is unlikely p started with x with that hand so we
can generally expect more. There indeed is no rational
way to show first round spade control and all this firepower
so we bid what we think we can make and bid

6d.

If you are going to bid 6, why not bid 4 first?
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Posted 2013-March-07, 18:17

View PostArtK78, on 2013-March-07, 18:08, said:

If you are going to bid 6, why not bid 4 first?


Because it leaks information to the opening leader, and exploring seven is almost impossible (and this is as good a way to explore seven as any). Not that that I would bid Six - just saying.

This looks like a perfect hand for the snappily named "4NT = a good 5m response" convention.
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Posted 2013-March-07, 19:44

If you bid 4, wouldn't partner believe hearts to be trumps? If that is a possibility the 6, if not then why not 4?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2013-March-07, 19:46

View PostHanoi5, on 2013-March-07, 19:44, said:

If you bid 4, wouldn't partner believe hearts to be trumps?


Why would he think that?
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Posted 2013-March-08, 09:11

View PostHanoi5, on 2013-March-07, 19:44, said:

If you bid 4, wouldn't partner believe hearts to be trumps? If that is a possibility the 6, if not then why not 4?


I think pard will just cuebid, probably 5 which opens you up to a lead directing double or without one, a heart lead from an astute defender.

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