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Anand Carlsen world chess championship

#21 User is offline   BillHiggin 

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Posted 2013-November-21, 06:55

OMG - what a turnaround.
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Posted 2013-November-21, 12:27

 BillHiggin, on 2013-November-21, 06:55, said:

OMG - what a turnaround.


Followed the game, what a final position to all but turn out the lights. Looks like Anand miscalculated a combo.

Carlsen wins the crown with one draw in the next three games, and once he does, he will hold on to it for a long, long time.
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Posted 2013-November-21, 13:04

Well, I'm a Carlsen fan but Kramnik has given him serious headaches in the Candidates. Anand will never play a world championship match again unless they revert to the KO system, but Kramnik and Aronian can both give Carlsen a run for his money and who knows, maybe Karjakin a few years from now.
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Posted 2013-November-21, 20:12

Hope to make more free $ betting on him lol.

Also, you low on Caruana gwnn? I like his chances better than Karjakin, he's def worth a mention at least.

Odds that Anand retires now?
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Posted 2013-November-22, 03:16

I was never impressed by Caruana. He has obviously a very big rating but his wins are not special. Obviously a great player and a very nice guy in general, though, and I would like to see him succeed. The only person from the 2700+ club I wouldn't like to be world champion right now is Anish Giri, but that doesn't seem like a serious possibility right now.

I think Anand will still play in the Candidates 2014 and then who knows. I am down to a bet though if you are interested.
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Posted 2013-November-22, 03:21

Totally not off-topic: great dress by Tania!
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Posted 2013-November-22, 07:46

Nice to see Carlsen play on, but Trent is a bit silly (saying that if Carlsen overpresses today he might be shattered and who knows?). If worst comes to worst he can always play for a draw in game 12 and anyway he's not risking that much today and anyway there's still game 11!
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Posted 2013-November-22, 08:45

 gwnn, on 2013-November-22, 07:46, said:

Nice to see Carlsen play on, but Trent is a bit silly (saying that if Carlsen overpresses today he might be shattered and who knows?). If worst comes to worst he can always play for a draw in game 12 and anyway he's not risking that much today and anyway there's still game 11!

I don't agree.

I don't want to exaggerate either, but if you have been in a position where you can force a draw and win the world championship, decide to play on for a win and then lose because you overlooked something you are not making it easier to play game 11 and 12.

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Posted 2013-November-22, 08:59

I think you're underestimating Carlsen's ability to play for a draw if he feels like playing for a draw, whether or not he lost twice in a row before, whether or not he missed some draws before. But we'll never know now since Carlsen is the new world champion!
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Posted 2013-November-22, 20:39

Congrats to Magnus! What a massive moment for chess. It's been an honour to watch his rise to ascendancy. Having said that I am a huge fan of Anand and it was a shame to perhaps not see him at his best this past week. 0 chance of him retiring before '14 Candidates imo. Care to explain your thoughts about Giri gwnn?
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Posted 2013-November-22, 20:50

Giri is a known dbag. I think he cussed at hou when she beat him, has been very ungracious in pressers when losing to worse players, and has had some twitter stuff.

@gwnn: I dunno, I agree Caruana's wins never seem that impressive, that's what makes me think he's really good, he just seems to win a lot doing natural/strong things in dull positions, kind of like a worse Carlsen. Of course that doesn't bode well for him beating Carlsen in a match ever, but he could def get better I assume. To me the non flashy guys are more impressive.
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Posted 2013-November-22, 22:35

Nakamura, Hikaru


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Posted 2013-November-23, 01:29

The headline in the biggest newspaper here: "Chess world champion: a 23 year old Norwegian fashion model".
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Posted 2013-November-23, 03:03

 broze, on 2013-November-22, 20:39, said:

Congrats to Magnus! What a massive moment for chess. It's been an honour to watch his rise to ascendancy. Having said that I am a huge fan of Anand and it was a shame to perhaps not see him at his best this past week. 0 chance of him retiring before '14 Candidates imo. Care to explain your thoughts about Giri gwnn?

He constantly makes frustrated comments about players that beat him. One example was

naming Aronian a coffee house player.

And I just remembered that in his training series on Chessvibes he annotated a rather poor game with blunders from both sides from the National Championships of the Netherlands (won by him convincingly) by two other contenders with the intro something like "some strange things were happening on the table next to me" and at the end something like "this was the moment where I realised I really need to win the championship."
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Posted 2013-November-23, 05:05

I thought game 6 - the second of Carlsen's wins - was truly special, and showed just what he brings to the game which no-one else seems to have at the moment.

He had his plan with Kf7, followed perhaps by Re7 and Re5 with a nice edge - the sort of position he routinely wins even if it is theoretically drawn. But he completely misses Anand's h5 idea. No doubt moments after seeing h5 he would have realised a. it ought to lead to a draw and b. he could have stopped it by playing h5 himself, and then proceeded with his plan. it would be very easy at that point to become a little disheartened and acquiesce to a draw, but he buckled down and looked for a way - any way - to try to still win. And he came up with an idea involving sacrificing 3 pawns leaving Anand with 2 connected passed pawns half way up the board against 1 further advanced passed pawn of his own. And what's more, it's not as if this idea was a forced win - Anand could still have drawn if he found the right plan - meanwhile if Carlsen's calculations contained a miscalculation of some sort, it is possible, from Carlsen's point of view, that by going for this variation he might be throwing the game away. I'm not sure how many other GMs would have even seen this idea, let alone risked it when they were 1-0 up in the match. But Carlsen went for it, and his calculations were correct, and Anand didn't see the danger until it was too late.
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Posted 2014-September-03, 02:02

 gwnn, on 2013-November-22, 03:16, said:

I was never impressed by Caruana. He has obviously a very big rating but his wins are not special.

LOL
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Posted 2014-September-03, 14:16

haha nice bump
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Posted 2014-September-03, 15:07

haha, watching the sinquefield?
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Posted 2014-September-03, 15:56

7-0!

Looking forward to the big one tomorrow.
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Posted 2014-September-03, 15:58

7 for 7...wow
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