[cherdano]

I will take blame for -100 in 4♠ - until partner gets the hand records and notices that without my 2♠ bid, we would have let them play 2♦, making.

[ArtK78]

cherdano, on 2014-February-03, 14:36, said:

I will take blame for -100 in 4♠ - until partner gets the hand records and notices that without my 2♠ bid, we would have let them play 2♦, making.

For -90.

Shame it was IMPs. Ruins a good punchline.

[billw55]

ArtK78, on 2014-February-03, 15:38, said:

For -90.

Shame it was IMPs. Ruins a good punchline.

It reminds me of something at my local club. A member had the license plate "MAKING 7". One of the old plates is hung in the club as a decoration. An unknown joker captioned it with a sticky note:

Spoiler

+190

[mycroft]

I still remember my biggest KO recovery. I got told (I was a little busy, as I had switched to directing when I heard this) that we had won, having taken the second half 53-0. About 5 minutes later, the following percolates into my brain:

"But we were +190 on a board. How do you win anything to zero when you're +190?"

So I asked. The answer?

Spoiler

The other team played in fourth suit forcing, -250, win 9.

[gszes]

I sort of love stove top rules---makes the game easy sometimes. My stove top rules for this hand

call for a 2s bid unfavorable at IMPS. I have the expectation of 6 tricks opposite a balanced broke partner,

I have at least 1 if not 2 defensive tricks and if p has an average amount of the expected remaining power

I expect to make game. this hand meets all of these criteria so I have few qualms with bidding 2s. Note that

this hand would not qualify for a 2s bid if p was a passed hand since partners average power expectation would

be closer to 6 than 11. Where did 11 come from? rho opened a weak 2 so we generally expect around 9 power

in their hand and we also have 9 so there are 22 power left. P will average 11 of those 22 and since lho is stronger

than rho those 11 will gain a positional boost of around 15% making them worth about 12.5 (ie a tad over 4 tricks

and we should have plenty of entries to lead up toward their honors).

Will this formula always work NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and once in a while you will turn in a really huge imp

loss since it is still plausible for lho to have all the remaining spades and poor helpless partner is sitting there with

0454 and they just know a xx will only make things worse, that's life but a 2s here carries less risk than most normal

1 level opening bids especially when we open a 3/4 card minor.

This is not MP where -500 is going to be worth close to zero at IMPS -500 is probably going to be minus 3-4 imps

except in the rarest of occasions where lho has a ton of spades. What are we gaining for our risk??? the ability on

average to make a vulnerable game. That's a pretty darn good risk vs reward ratio in my book. There are times

silence is golden this just does not appear to be such a time:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[broze]

I remember studying 'A Shropshire Lad' at school I think, and then Housman's Juvenal edition at university. A great intellect.

[mr1303]

Everyone seemed to think this was nearly automatic.

What about AKJxxx

What about KQxxxx and an outside A? Assumme the same shape.

[gszes]

mr1303, on 2014-February-06, 01:16, said:

Everyone seemed to think this was nearly automatic.

What about AKJxxx

What about KQxxxx and an outside A? Assumme the same shape.

for me neither of those 2 is acceptable at unfavorable due to the lack of expecting to take 6

tricks opposite a flat broke partner:)