what's 3S?
#1
Posted 2014-February-08, 14:56
(1H).....dbl.....(1S).....2D
P......... 2S.....(dbl).....3S
What is 3S?
#2
Posted 2014-February-08, 15:00
#3
Posted 2014-February-08, 15:04
helene_t, on 2014-February-08, 15:00, said:
Thanks. I knew 2S was natural but I assume pd meant 3S as a "transfer to 3N". We missed our 6-4 diamond fit for our 5-1 spade fit. Made me wonder though what the difference between rdbl and 3S would be.
#4
Posted 2014-February-08, 15:39
helene_t, on 2014-February-08, 15:00, said:
Isn't the order of bidding as follows:
( W ) - N - ( E ) - S
( 1♥) - X - ( 1♠) - p
( p ) - ??
Why would you bid 2♠ ( as natural ) with the Spade bidder BEHIND you ?
2♥ should be natural and 2♠! as the cuebid .
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EDIT : RE. a psyche in this situation :
If partner ( the 2D bidder ) had 4 cards ♠, he would DBL instead ;
if he had 5+ he would bid 2S .
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
#5
Posted 2014-February-08, 16:06
TWO4BRIDGE, on 2014-February-08, 15:39, said:
( W ) - N - ( E ) - S
( 1♥) - X - ( 1♠) - p
( p ) - ??
Why would you bid 2♠ ( as natural ) with the Spade bidder BEHIND you ?
2♥ should be natural and 2♠! as the cuebid .
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EDIT : RE. a psyche in this situation :
If partner ( the 2D bidder ) had 4 cards ♠, he would DBL instead ;
if he had 5+ he would bid 2S .
No. The order was 1H dbl 1S 2D P 2S dbl 3S. Partner responded diamonds to my takeout double. I also believe that my 2S bid is natural. If I'd had hearts I would have passed 1H, but we can't let them talk us out of spades when I have a hand that could be big enough to double and then show spades.
#6
Posted 2014-February-08, 16:41
straube, on 2014-February-08, 15:04, said:
Sorry I missed the double on 2♠. It's a weird auction.
#9
Posted 2014-February-08, 20:05
TWO4BRIDGE, on 2014-February-08, 15:39, said:
( W ) - N - ( E ) - S
( 1♥) - X - ( 1♠) - p
( p ) - ??
Why would you bid 2♠ ( as natural ) with the Spade bidder BEHIND you ?
2♥ should be natural and 2♠! as the cuebid .
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EDIT : RE. a psyche in this situation :
If partner ( the 2D bidder ) had 4 cards ♠, he would DBL instead ;
if he had 5+ he would bid 2S .
Why wouldn't I if I had a 2S bid? I tend to look at the cards in my hand rather than trust the opponents.
#10
Posted 2014-February-09, 10:54
straube, on 2014-February-08, 16:06, said:
You are right about ♥ .. If you had ♥, you would not have DBLed 1H .
I agree it is a strange auction .
Why would partner raise your 2SX to 3S ? ( if the DOUBLE is for penalty ).
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .