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Another high level decision... With a known big fit...

Poll: Another high level decision... (14 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your call?

  1. P (4 votes [28.57%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  2. X (5 votes [35.71%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.71%

  3. 5 spades (5 votes [35.71%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.71%

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#1 User is offline   akhare 

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Posted 2014-May-05, 12:20

IMPs (7 board matches), vul. vs. NV. RHO dealer:



The opponents don't have any special agreements on 4 and it's natural without any inference on support.

On a side note, do you agree with 3 or would you have simply bid game in spades? Would you bid differently if you were playing a longer match?
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Posted 2014-May-05, 14:53

I'll pass. I don't think we're in a force. Partner didn't compete to 4S and didn't double 5C. Curious that LHO passes 2H and then bids clubs. I expect he thinks he is saving, but maybe the cards are situated such that it's making or down 1. I doubt we're making 5S. I think I'd prefer 4S to 3H initially.
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Posted 2014-May-05, 18:45

Double for me.

2 Aces are to much to pass imo and I know they can not redouble.

About forcing pass, it depends on agreements I guess. They are white and we are red, they stayed in part score and then they bid at 5 level after we bid our game. If they are making it they will make doubled but I do not rely on forcing pass when doubling them, even though some may play this as forcing pass auction, which is reasonable btw.
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Posted 2014-May-06, 04:51

Just pass. LHO was guessing, and he can make anything from 10 to 13 tricks in this game.
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Posted 2014-May-06, 05:10

Hi,

5S.

3H should create a FP, partner cant double,
I cant it either.

If I dont want to bid 5S now, I should have bid
4S instead of 3H, which I dont like at all.

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Posted 2014-May-06, 16:23

given the bidding it would hardly be unreasonable for p to hold 3 and
possibly even 4 hearts. Imagine p with a min 2s balance say
KQJxx Axxx xx x this hand will not accept your game invite yet your
side will not go down more than 1 in 5s while the opps probably roll
home in 5c. It is a tad scary to consider bidding 5s since we are
anything but certain we can set 6c but the way the bidding has gone
it seems an unlikely position for the opps to take and I know I am
a ton happier if can x them in 6c rather than 5c:)))))))))))))))))))
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Posted 2014-May-06, 22:42

Here's the hand...

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I have a few questions for the forum. Does the 3H bid by this hand that has passed promise a good raise or can it be an awkward hand without a fit or stop? Is there a standard treatment or is this a partnership agreement? I personally would rather sacrifice a 4H splinter and use 3H as no fit/values, 3S as a raise, 4m as fit-showing and 4H as a good raise to 4S. Or switch 4C and 4H around even better.

If 3H is just a better raise to 3S, it ought not create a force. If it is a bid that promises a rebid, then it ought to create a force in case next hand bids 5C or whatever. Seeing as how balancer neither doubled or bid 4S over 4C, should a force (if it ever existed) still be on? What's the need really?
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Posted 2014-May-07, 14:53

3 promises a fit, it is the strong raise, as oposed to 3 with will be 9-11 or so.

counting 2 aces on defence with 11+ spades is counting badly.

I hope 5 outscores 5, they cannot be sure of anything on this bidding I hope.
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