[mike777]

Just saw the movie Concussion. It is a bit better than I expected.

The big problem the doctor/scientist faced was when he tried to be a politician rather than just a science guy. It is a common problem. He tried to make policy based on the his findings rather than just do the science. He is a very good scientist...a lousy politician.

[billw55]

Cyberyeti, on 2015-December-28, 19:42, said:

Interesting article on the NFL site about next week's Packers-Vikes game.

From the Packers PoV.

Win and host Seattle

Lose and go to Washington

Which do you prefer ?

A home game is big $$. Winning is secondary.

[Cyberyeti]

billw55, on 2016-January-04, 07:52, said:

A home game is big $$. Winning is secondary.

Not quite.

http://www.forbes.co...ches-for-teams/

It's not big $

[billw55]

Cyberyeti, on 2016-January-04, 08:40, said:

Not quite.

http://www.forbes.co...ches-for-teams/

It's not big $

I am not able to read that link, but if it says that a home game is not a money maker for an NFL team, I have a hard time believing that.

[PhantomSac]

billw55, on 2016-January-04, 07:52, said:

A home game is big $$. Winning is secondary.

AFAIK the NFL teams make huge money from the TV deals (and the salary cap goes up as the TV deals go up). They all split this revenue equally. They also split merchandise revenues with the exception of THE COWBOYS (jerry jones elite businessman!)

I am not sure how game tickets work but I believe they are split somehow also. Of course hosting a playoff game/superbowl can be very good for a cities economy I'm sure since you get a lot of out of town people coming in and spending money locally, but I don't think teams directly make money from hosting playoff games.

[billw55]

PhantomSac, on 2016-January-04, 09:50, said:

AFAIK the NFL teams make huge money from the TV deals (and the salary cap goes up as the TV deals go up). They all split this revenue equally. They also split merchandise revenues with the exception of THE COWBOYS (jerry jones elite businessman!)

I am not sure how game tickets work but I believe they are split somehow also. Of course hosting a playoff game/superbowl can be very good for a cities economy I'm sure since you get a lot of out of town people coming in and spending money locally, but I don't think teams directly make money from hosting playoff games.

Don't know for sure, but I would guess that ticket revenue is split somehow, while concessions, alcohol, parking, and some other types of in-stadium sales are kept by the home club. That's no chump change.

[jjbrr]

among the most predictable results in human history, after the NFL implemented new procedures for inspecting game balls in 2015

• The Patriots had the fewest fumbles of any NFL offense.
• The Patriots had the best fumble rate of any NFL offense.
• The Patriots had one of their best fumble rates of the past decade.

[Cyberyeti]

billw55, on 2016-January-04, 09:19, said:

I am not able to read that link, but if it says that a home game is not a money maker for an NFL team, I have a hard time believing that.

Extract:

"The NFL’s socialist model continues in the playoffs. Playoff home teams in baseball, basketball and hockey keep anywhere from 50% to 100% of ticket revenues, depending on the sport and the number of games in the series. In football, all gate receipts flow to the league."

[mike777]

I believe each team gets 188million just from the national tv deal.

I would think at some point you can pipe in crowd noise(it had been done in the past) CGI the crowd shots and mount the whole game on an indoor tv set. Save the cost of a billion buck stadium and parking lot, maintenance expense times 32 teams. There is talk of moving 3 teams to LA but who knows in time move all 32 to the tv production capital.

Keep in mind there is only about 12 minutes of actual football play, the rest of the game is filler to sell stuff.

[billw55]

Cyberyeti, on 2016-January-06, 08:06, said:

Extract:

"The NFL's socialist model continues in the playoffs. Playoff home teams in baseball, basketball and hockey keep anywhere from 50% to 100% of ticket revenues, depending on the sport and the number of games in the series. In football, all gate receipts flow to the league."

Ah, interesting, good to know.

Still, there are other revenue streams related to a home game, some of which I mentioned above.

[mgoetze]

OK guys, brace yourselves... Nantz and Simms are going to blame anyone and everyone EXCEPT Peyton Manning for the Broncos collapse that is imminent.

[Zelandakh]

mgoetze, on 2016-January-24, 13:57, said:

OK guys, brace yourselves... Nantz and Simms are going to blame anyone and everyone EXCEPT Peyton Manning for the Broncos collapse that is imminent.

Well you were right in as much as they blamed everyone except the QB, just wrong about which team.

[Cyberyeti]

Zelandakh, on 2016-January-25, 04:27, said:

Well you were right in as much as they blamed everyone except the QB, just wrong about which team.

When your leading rusher is Tom Brady with 13 yards, you've got issues.

[Zelandakh]

Cyberyeti, on 2016-January-25, 06:24, said:

When your leading rusher is Tom Brady with 13 yards, you've got issues.

In fairness, their best rusher in last season's AFC Divisional game had 7 yards (with a team total of 14) but they still beat the Ravens 35-31. Some might be surprised the Pats tried to run it as often as they did. With a slightly better OLine for pass protection, they may well have forgotten about the ground game completely.

[Flem72]

C'mon youse guys, give it up for one of the best defenses ever to play the game. Have you ever seen so much action at the snap?:

[Cyberyeti]

Zelandakh, on 2016-January-25, 07:28, said:

In fairness, their best rusher in last season's AFC Divisional game had 7 yards (with a team total of 14) but they still beat the Ravens 35-31. Some might be surprised the Pats tried to run it as often as they did. With a slightly better OLine for pass protection, they may well have forgotten about the ground game completely.

I wasn't just talking about the numbers, if Brady's running, it's not a designed run if it goes more than 1 yard (he sneaks but that's about it), it means there's pressure. If nobody else can run more than him, it means he can't reduce that pressure.

[billw55]

Flem72, on 2016-January-25, 08:35, said:

C'mon youse guys, give it up for one of the best defenses ever to play the game. Have you ever seen so much action at the snap?:

OK, great defense. Held two of the top offenses in the league to 10 points under their season average.

So, let's imagine they do the same one more time. That would be 21 points for Carolina. Can Denver score 22 points? Carolina's defense is pretty good too, I say no.

[andrei]

mgoetze, on 2016-January-24, 13:57, said:

OK guys, brace yourselves... Nantz and Simms are going to blame anyone and everyone EXCEPT Peyton Manning for the Broncos collapse that is imminent.

Still waiting for the collapse.

It seems Brady has lost his last 5 playoff games against Manning family.

[billw55]

andrei, on 2016-January-25, 10:20, said:

Still waiting for the collapse.

It seems Brady has lost his last 5 playoff games against Manning family.

Well, it almost happened. Bombing the field on 4th down like the Packers.

[mgoetze]

andrei, on 2016-January-25, 10:20, said:

Still waiting for the collapse.

Don't worry, you'll see it in 2 weeks. Carson Palmer played much the way I expected Peyton Manning to play, and that defense the Broncos ran against the Patriots wouldn't work against the Panthers.