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#1 User is offline   Ethel 

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Posted 2015-July-30, 10:11

I was South and opened 1 My LHO overcalled 4 My partner (N) now bid 4NT. Is 4NT Ace asking or showing the other two suits (probable 5-5?
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Posted 2015-July-30, 13:50

Neither. It should be to play, with a balanced hand, a diamond stopper, and around 15-18 hcp.
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Posted 2015-July-30, 14:04

View PostEthel, on 2015-July-30, 10:11, said:

I was South and opened 1 My LHO overcalled 4 My partner (N) now bid 4NT. Is 4NT Ace asking or showing the other two suits (probable 5-5?
Without discussion, I would guess:
  • Double = NEG. "Action", showing values.
  • 4M = NAT. To play.
  • 4N = RKC. Agreeing s.
  • 5 = NAT. To play.
  • 5 = UCB. Perhaps asking for M-preference, initially at least

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Posted 2015-July-30, 23:50

RKC is less likely to be useful playing an offshoot of 5 card majors and strong NT, since common minimum hands include only any 3 clubs and close to 12 -13 hcp and bad splits advertised. So, in Standard American 4NT is natural in this sequence, which I believe is the world standard, as also voted into Bridge World Standard.

corrected 7/31 0821am Thanks Vampyr
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Posted 2015-July-31, 01:06

I think that "to play" is a slightly lazy description of any of the bids. While opener may require a lot to move, he does after all have a 10 point range (or so).
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Posted 2015-July-31, 01:47

View PostBillPatch, on 2015-July-30, 23:50, said:

RKC is less likely to be useful playing an offshoot of 5 card majors and weak NT, since common minimum hands include only any 3 clubs and close to 12 -13 hcp and bad splits advertised.


I don't quite understand. These hands would have opened 1NT.
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Posted 2015-July-31, 02:16

It doesn't make a lot of sense for 4NT to show the majors, because it would require playing them at the 5-level when there was still a chance to play in one of them at the 4-level (either by making a takeout double or simply by guessing to bid one of the suits). So if 4NT showed the majors, responder would really only be bidding it with a slam try.

Whether it should be natural or RKC in clubs is less clear. I suggest you and your partner pick whichever of those is more intuitive to you.
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