1S-(P)-2D-(2H)-2NT ? Bidding over 4th hand intervention
#1
Posted 2015-September-10, 13:51
KJx
Axx
KTxx
xxx
1S-(P)-2D-(2H)
2NT-(P)-?
How good (or bad) is partner's 2NT ?
#2
Posted 2015-September-10, 13:57
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#3
Posted 2015-September-10, 14:00
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#5
Posted 2015-September-10, 14:07
fbear, on 2015-September-10, 14:04, said:
Well, it seems you've got a hole in your system, then.
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#6
Posted 2015-September-10, 14:18
mgoetze, on 2015-September-10, 14:07, said:
I don't see why.
1S-2D-any-3S would show 10-12 with 3 card support.
1S-2S <10 with 3 card support.
Bergen and Jacoby pick up the 4 card support hands with values.
I prefer 2/1 to be GF unless responder rebids their suit and Bergen 3C/3D to be 3/4 card support with 10-12 values, but I don't play that with the particular partner I was playing with. I think his preferred method is playable.
#7
Posted 2015-September-10, 14:23
fbear, on 2015-September-10, 13:51, said:
KJx
Axx
KTxx
xxx
1S-(P)-2D-(2H)
2NT-(P)-?
How good (or bad) is partner's 2NT ?
It seems your options are:
1) respond 2s to 1s if you feel this hand is less than invite or
2) respond 3s or 3nt now to 2nt.
I do not think pass is an option after 2nt. Opener is allowed to pass 2h with a really bad hand.
#8
Posted 2015-September-10, 14:47
fbear, on 2015-September-10, 14:18, said:
1S-2D-any-3S would show 10-12 with 3 card support.
Because this is normally a GF, you're hurting your slam bidding by taking this sequence away.
-- Bertrand Russell
#9
Posted 2015-September-11, 13:05
mike777, on 2015-September-10, 14:23, said:
1) respond 2s to 1s if you feel this hand is less than invite or
2) respond 3s or 3nt now to 2nt.
I do not think pass is an option after 2nt. Opener is allowed to pass 2h with a really bad hand.
I agree. I think if partner has a weak NT, he can pass.
I understand that when playing 2/1 GF he can pass forcing with an 18-19 balanced hand, but if 2/1 is not GF then opener has to be able to show that hand and a leap to 3NT seems too Fred Flintstone to me.
Partner held :- AT9xx Qxx Jxx AQ
As mgoetze points out, being able to bid 2NT over 2H may right side the contract but if you pass and partner doubles you can bid 2NT then losing nothing and being able to show 18-19 with a 2NT rebid rather than the agricultural 3NT.
Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.
#10
Posted 2015-September-11, 14:46
fbear, on 2015-September-11, 13:05, said:
How about if you pass and partner passes?
And if you say partner never passes then I have a great bidding plan for your 18-19 hand with a heart stopper: pass and then pass partner's double.
-- Bertrand Russell
#11
Posted 2015-September-11, 15:17
With the OP hand I think it would be better to load any limit raises into 2N. It just doesn't seem that important to show these crappy diamonds en route to...inviting.
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