[Phil]

W/w jacoby swiss.

Txxxx
Jxxxx
ATX
Void

1. 1 ♠ (2 ♣) ?

Available in your arsenal is

1. 2S (usually 3 pieces)
2. 3S (preemptive)
3. 2N (mixed raise - implies a little defense)
4. 4S (more preemptive)

Make your choice, but you can anticipate the next call which is 5♣ from LHO.

2. Your call over 5 ♣?

[apollo1201]

4S. If 5 trump support, a side ace and a (99% of times) useful void are not enough, what else is? Although I'm not too sure of the meaning of "more preemptive".
Then I guess the answer to question 2 derives from the fine (but not 100% explicit to us) gradation you make between the different raises. And if a pass from partner is forcing (after 2NT?). But anyway, I'd still be tempted to bid 5 as I have a bit more than expected, while 5C can only be -1 or even make on a very stormy day.

[SteveMoe]

4♠ then DBL, assuming partner pulls if they do not have at least 2 winners.
I've been wrong before.

[robert2734]

Whats the vulnerability? Bid 4S. After 5C, I bid 5S. I can't risk a double game swing. If partner has S AKxxx H X D KQxxx C xx and the diamonds split 4-1, we can make 6 spades and they make 5 clubs. Partner's pass suggests he doesn't have any wasted honors in clubs.

[nige1]

Phil, on 2016-March-21, 13:13, said:

W/w jacoby swiss.

Txxxx
Jxxxx
ATX
Void

1. 1 ♠ (2 ♣) ?

Available in your arsenal is

1. 2S (usually 3 pieces)
2. 3S (preemptive)
3. 2N (mixed raise - implies a little defense)
4. 4S (more preemptive)

Make your choice, but you can anticipate the next call which is 5♣ from LHO.

2. Your call over 5 ♣?

I rank

• 2N = MIX. Then pass 5♣. The 2♣ damage can't be undone.
• 4♠ = PRE. The best bid if RHO had passed. Then Pass 5♣.
• Pass = DOG walk. Then bid 3♠ and 4♠.
• 2♠ = NAT, But, again, keep bidding to 4 level.
• 3♠ = NAT. Then 4♠

[phoenix214]

I think the hand has a bit more value than bidding 4S - in that way I would like to tell partner i have more values - so in the case of that 2N seems the right bid - although what would be 4H by me now? If I can show more cards in my hand that would be great as well - the only problem with that is that partner might undervalue his singleton H.

[nullve]

Using LoTT w/ standard adjustments:

1. 4♠
2. 5♠

[wank]

mixed raise
5s - having shown some values already i'm much happier bidding on with my extra shape. if i had the ace of d unshown i'd be worried that i was phantoming

[Phil]

wank, on 2016-March-22, 05:54, said:

mixed raise
5s - having shown some values already i'm much happier bidding on with my extra shape. if i had the ace of d unshown i'd be worried that i was phantoming

This matched my thoughts, trusting partner to hammer 5C along the way.

Alas, 5S was a phantom across from AQJxx Axx Qxxx x.

Kinda thinking CHO owes me a x with this once I show a little D.

[Jinksy]

Easy to say after the denouement, but I would just bid 4♠ here. If they raise to 5♣, P will know about my shortage as well as I do, so will be well placed to make the final decision. If he has no shortage of his own, we probably don't want to bid 5/5.

[gszes]

2n

Using the system as described. 2N gets us another chance to bid and we cannot afford to not be in game. The dia A makes this a hard hand to preempt in case the opps bid 5c. We do not have the values to show p a ton of stuff but we would like to see an x if perchance the opps continue to bid above 4s (either immediately or later). If p cannot do anything over 5c should we go to 5s? I am not sure. First we might not even beat 6c and there is no guarantee 5s will be a great sac (ie -300 or -500 are plausible).

[Fluffy]

4♠ seems obvious to me, why did you not like it?

[Phil]

Fluffy, on 2016-March-24, 09:50, said:

4♠ seems obvious to me, why did you not like it?

Because I didn't want partner to take a phantom and x 5C knowing I have defense.

[Winstonm]

I think this is a better question of what do I bid after 2C without knowing that a 5C bid is imminent. My thinking has always been the same - tell my partner the approximate strength of my hand and then shut up unless a further bid is needed for more clarification. If 4S tells the tale, bid it and go quietly onward.

[Fluffy]

Phil, on 2016-March-24, 10:23, said:

Because I didn't want partner to take a phantom and x 5C knowing I have defense.

What defence should partner expect for a 4♠ bid?