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What means this jump to 3D?

#1 User is offline   Stefan_O 

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Posted 2016-November-01, 16:44

Bidding starts:

1♣ - (2♣) - 3♦

1♣ opening is 2+♣ (5card majors & 4card diam openings).

2♣ overcall is natural showing 6+clubs.

With no particular agreements on this, how would you interpret pd's jump to 3♦?
Diamonds obviously... but what strength? Forcing or not?
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Posted 2016-November-01, 17:12

Undiscussed, another bad bid. It better be a fit jump and forcing by an unpassed hand.
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Posted 2016-November-02, 10:10

Are you confident that 2♦ would have been forcing? Some people I know would prob bid this naturally, worried that 2♦ could be passed. With more experienced players, I'd assume fit.
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Posted 2016-November-02, 14:33

Fit jump?
Note that LHO is showing 6+clubs...
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Posted 2016-November-03, 00:12

If undiscussed,forcing.Imo either strong hand with ♦ or more likely solid ♦ suit & asking partner to bid 3nt with ♣ stopper.
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Posted 2016-November-03, 04:32

Strange, I seem to be in a quorum of one in thinking this ought to be preemptive. The FJ makes little sense with partner showing 2 and RHO showing 6, while strong is a fairly ridiculous waste of bidding space.
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Posted 2016-November-03, 06:12

yes weak
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Posted 2016-November-03, 11:26

2♦ is natural and forcing, a fit jump with 6 clubs in front of you makes no sense...

Must be weak, not only non forcing but drop dead without an exceptional opener.
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Posted 2016-November-04, 04:28

Preemptive is the only thing that makes sense in context.
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Posted 2016-November-04, 09:39

well it cannot be fitted if LHO is showing the suit. That would be absurd.

If 2♦ is forcing, then 3♦ is weak. If 2♦ is NF (I actually play this way), 3♦ in my preferred method shows a good hand with hearts, since 3♣ shows diamonds.
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