[jogs]

jogs, on 2016-November-03, 12:57, said:

Qxxx xxxx Kxx xx

I think this is a 5♥ call.

Kaitlyn S, on 2016-November-03, 14:48, said:

I'd be surprised if most players didn't take a chance defending 5C with this hand.

Yes, I forgot about the option to pass.

Still why punish pard with 6♥ when he bids 5♥.
Looks like it is on a finesse which rates to fail more than 50% of the time.

[lamford]

Jinksy, on 2016-November-12, 11:20, said:

Did you see the post immediately above yours?

I replied before seeing it

[WesleyC]

I think what most people are missing is that a re-opening double at the 5-level *doesn't promise hearts*.

It shows ANY hand with enough transferable values that it is happy to act at the 5-level (and the 5-level mostly belongs to the opponents) but can't find another bid.

Partner is expected to pass without extreme shape or significant extra values.

Opposite a sound partner, raising to 6H looks absolutely normal.

[phil_20686]

Fluffy, on 2016-November-03, 10:28, said:

partner bid an empty heart suit?, something is not right, and I would need to know my partner to know what is he thinking about. My first instinct is to bid 7, or at least try it.

This
was my thought as well. But its just too hard to know if 7 is good. But bidding 6 seems fairly trivial. Expect something like Axxx xxxxxx Kxx -. Can have one less of those cards I guess. Or not the void

[phil_20686]

miamijd, on 2016-November-03, 11:41, said:

The stiff Kc is a very bad holding for slam. Not only is the King worthless, but this is three fewer points your side doesn't have. In addition, you can't be sure partner has to As, either. He could have something like:


Qxxx xxxxxx Kx x

Wouldn't you bid 5H on that? I certainly would.


Cheers,
Mike

Yes

You can construct hands where 6h goes off. But I think that it will make on average more than enough times.

[phil_20686]

rmnka447, on 2016-November-03, 17:35, said:

I suspect, that with something like ♠ xxx ♥ xxxxxx ♦ xxx ♣ x, I'd find a 5 ♥ call. Are those that are suggesting that 5 ♥ shows values mean they would insist on sitting for 5 ♣X with this hand or ones similar to it?

?

Cannot imagine pulling 5C on this hand. Not only does partner often have three tricks even when comparatively weak, but pulling could be 1100 when partner felt compelled to protect your equity with a 16 count with Kx of hearts.

[phil_20686]

miamijd, on 2016-November-03, 18:14, said:

5H doesn't show a really good hand in expert standard. It shows a hand that thinks 5H will be better than defending 5C.

So

Qxxx T9xxxxs x x

You really think you want to pass 5C here?

Yes