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Posted 2022-February-09, 13:32


East leads the ace of diamonds on which West plays the jack, and switches to a small club. You play the ace. Now how would you play the trumps?

My Welsh teammmate Richard Plackett had a tough decision here.
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Posted 2022-February-09, 14:31

Could we have a look at opps' CC?
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Posted 2022-February-09, 15:14

View Postnullve, on 2022-February-09, 14:31, said:

Could we have a look at opps' CC?

I can guess. But there are no cards shown on Vugraph. One can assume strong no-trump better minor, reverse carding I think.
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Posted 2022-February-09, 20:13

View Postnullve, on 2022-February-09, 14:31, said:

Could we have a look at opps' CC?

Why does it matter? East has the AK of diamonds

I’d lead a low spade and play the AK unless east show out.

This is slightly percentage in the suit plus if spades are 3-1, I can hope the long spade has 3+ hearts.
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Posted 2022-February-10, 02:53

View Postmikeh, on 2022-February-09, 20:13, said:

Why does it matter? East has the AK of diamonds

I’d lead a low spade and play the AK unless east show out.

This is slightly percentage in the suit plus if spades are 3-1, I can hope the long spade has 3+ hearts.

But what if it were clear from their CC that

* they lead A from AKx(...)
* the low club was attitude
* East would have opened with Q+AK+Q/K ("we open all 11s")

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Posted 2022-February-11, 18:00

View Postnullve, on 2022-February-10, 02:53, said:

But what if it were clear from their CC that

* they lead A from AKx(...)
* the low club was attitude
* East would have opened with Q+AK+Q/K ("we open all 11s")

?

The club switch presumably suggested an honour. My view of this is that the queen of spades is about 75% to be onside. If East has the king of clubs, then West has to have the queen of spades. If East has the queen of clubs, then West might have opened the 11-count. Most people seem to these days. Even if East has neither club honour, it is 50% that West has the queen of spades.

I think it is clear to cross to the top heart and hook the spade. that is around 80% as it picks up stiff queen with East as well. Cashing the spades drops the queen about 50% of the time, and finds the person with the queen of spades having three or more hearts around 40% of the remainder. About 70% overall. I don't think it is that close.

But I have a simulation running with East opening all 12 counts and passing all 11 counts. On that the finesse is leading about 79-71 as I speak.
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Posted 2022-February-12, 04:02

View Postlamford, on 2022-February-11, 18:00, said:

The club switch presumably suggested an honour. My view of this is that the queen of spades is about 75% to be onside. If East has the king of clubs, then West has to have the queen of spades. If East has the queen of clubs, then West might have opened the 11-count. Most people seem to these days. Even if East has neither club honour, it is 50% that West has the queen of spades.

I think it is clear to cross to the top heart and hook the spade. that is around 80% as it picks up stiff queen with East as well. Cashing the spades drops the queen about 50% of the time, and finds the person with the queen of spades having three or more hearts around 40% of the remainder. About 70% overall. I don't think it is that close.

But I have a simulation running with East opening all 12 counts and passing all 11 counts. On that the finesse is leading about 79-71 as I speak.


If I was looking at Qx, I would CERTAINLY switch to a very small club from a set of small ones here, I want to lead a club, and I know that my Q figures to make if I represent a club honour.
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