[thepossum]

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How do you find out where the points are and explore a likely slam(EDIT Possible slam )

[smerriman]

No.

[thepossum]

smerriman, on 2023-March-04, 20:43, said:

No.

Is there no bid that can force or even explore majors
What if I showed you North's hand
What if I told you that other major Bridge software manged to find 6 spades with not too much trouble when even a grand was possible
What if I told you that no matter what reasonable bid I could think of as South I could not get past 5 hearts
My problem is only with the North bot because West made an excellent pre-empt
Is it possible to elect to play East in robot tourneys?
FYI An offshape double will apparently get you into a more forcing situation

[smerriman]

None of those things would change my answer.

[thepossum]

I understand that

All credit to those who navigated the maze

I always feel most aggrieved when I can see it and know its there but can't find a way

[thepossum]

For those who haven't already found the hand here it is

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I was in the crowd who reached 4 hearts. I don't know how many others were hoping for more
- and other major Bridge software somehow managed a bid
RHO doesn't have much, long clubs but I only have one of them etc
What have I got. Oh 13 points and some shape
You may question my (and most of the rest of the field's) choice of 4H but I have reason to believe the North bot did not even show up today and delegated to a lesser and much less experienced bot
Scored ok but I was so sad to miss the slam I knew was there

[Lovera]

thepossum, on 2023-March-05, 05:21, said:

For those who haven't already found the hand here it is

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I was in the crowd who reached 4 hearts. I don't know how many others were hoping for more
- and other major Bridge software somehow managed a bid
RHO doesn't have much, long clubs but I only have one of them etc
What have I got. Oh 13 points and some shape
You may question my (and most of the rest of the field's) choice of 4H but I have reason to believe the North bot did not even show up today and delegated to a lesser and much less experienced bot
Scored ok but I was so sad to miss the slam I knew was there

Right for informations but not with 4♥. Time ago was not possible to have simulations for other bids as lycier used to do ? And about the bidding at the other tables that can be known ? About 4♣ is easy to read the W hand (this one is the sequentiate type with a void and 2/3 high cards). It needs to have the N hand instead of E one to get it. May be usefull X to know force probably.

[mw64ahw]

What would 5♣ mean?

[pescetom]

mw64ahw, on 2023-August-09, 09:42, said:

What would 5♣ mean?

Also what would 4NT mean?
And what's so wrong with Double, then hearts over diamonds if necessary?

[thepossum]

Why are people still dredging up my ancient hands

Its not like I was in the Bermuda Bowl

I'm not Zia

Maybe they will still be discussing it in 50 years

[Lovera]

thepossum, on 2023-August-09, 18:48, said:

Why are people still dredging up my ancient hands

Its not like I was in the Bermuda Bowl

I'm not Zia

Maybe they will still be discussing it in 50 years

But why have you post it if not to have an answere ( how to get more) in a dialogue uncompleted. If there a way to get Slam it's necessary to know.

[thepossum]

Lovera, on 2023-August-10, 07:08, said:

But why have you post it if not to have an answere ( how to get more) in a dialogue uncompleted. If there a way to get Slam it's necessary to know.

I agree it is important. I am just somewhat embarassed and honoured that people are still discussing the hand

[thepossum]

Looking back I have explored it again and wondered about 5 clubs as South

But surely North has to join in at some stage

[Lovera]

thepossum, on 2023-August-10, 18:03, said:

I agree it is important. I am just somewhat embarassed and honoured that people are still discussing the hand

It happens when this one is usefull yet.

[Lovera]

thepossum, on 2023-August-10, 18:18, said:

Looking back I have explored it again and wondered about 5 clubs as South

But surely North has to join in at some stage

Have you seen how many tricks W can make ? And till can defend (but that difficultly BOT will bid) in 7♣ vs 6♠).