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Benellis58 GIB bashing on repeat Groundhog Day

#2021 User is offline   benellis58 

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Posted 2026-July-01, 08:04

Scintillatingly "BRILLIANT" "defence" by Frick and Frack, who manage to turn my heart 10 into a WINNER and who also manage to NEVER take their ace of spades.

BTW, I think the GIBBO system of 3D being invitational is hopeless...just like most of their antiquated, illogical, wasteful, redundant, wildly inferior ENTIRE system is. Who would voluntarily play all the hideous JUNK that GIBBO mandates?

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Posted 2026-July-01, 09:40

East's decision to bid the "impossible spade" is highly questionable, particularly since West might have as few as three clubs.

Over 2S, West bids 3C, basically signing off (!) while making a bid defined as showing ONLY (!) "12-13 TOTAL points". East, who might ALREADY have overbid with 2S, now bids AGAIN, 3D this time. WHY? Poor, poor, pitiful West (R.I.P., Warren Z.!) is forced to go to FOUR clubs, signing off AGAIN, yet East is STILL not satisfied and bids 4H.

East retreats to FIVE clubs...and there they are...in a contract off three TOP tricks. Hopeless, as always. And speaking of "hopeless", let's look at some of the GARBAGE that passes for GIB definitions.

1H begins with the usual monstrously annoying and completely useless words "Major-suit opening". Who thought that it was a good idea to include this needless, disrespectful type of TRASH in SO many GIB definitions?

2C shows this same UNACCEPTABLE style, as IT begins with THESE two useless and insulting words: "New suit". Yeah, GIB, I guess it's a "new suit", since it's the first time it's being mentioned in the imbecilic GIBBO auction, but thanks SO much for the explicit explanation.

Also, a MIRACLE occurs in the auction: East's HIGH-card points GROW. They BLOSSOM! His forcing 1NT was LAZILY defined as showing "6+ HCP" with NO upper limit. Really, GIB? Really? He could REALLY have 37 HCP? Somehow I don't think so. Somehow I think it was just a TYPICALLY pathetic (and LAZY) GIB definition.

Next, his 3S doesn't even MENTION HCP, as it refers ONLY to "total" points, a subject about which GIB has demonstrated time and time again that it knows NOTHING.

His next call, 3D, again says NOTHING about HCP and again mentions only "total" points.

But - hallelujah (!) - his next, and final call, 4H, DOES again speak of HCP...and NOW...ALL OF A SUDDEN...they have GROWN (quite magically!), because NOW the definition claims that 4H shows "TWELVE PLUS" HCP. This, of course, besides being ridiculous, is also a barefaced LIE, since he actually has 11 HCP - the SAME 11 that he has not surprisingly held since he first picked up his cards...contrary to the shifting descriptions in the hopeless GIB definitions.

BTW, this 4H definition that falsely claims that East has "12+ HCP" ALSO claims that he has "12- total points", thereby proving for the Nth time that GIB knows nothing - NOTHING AT ALL - about "total" points. HCP can be less than or equal to "total" points, but they CANNOT be greater. Why? Because "total" points are arrived at by beginning with the HCP as a base, and then, if applicable, ADDING points for distribution. This is a basic, elementary, SIMPLE concept...yet GIB states in this definition that East is showing at LEAST 12 HCP and quite possibly MORE - possibly even 37, since the typically LAZY definition includes no upper limit, just a plus sign. Yet the SAME definition states that he has at MOST 12 "total" points - and possibly fewer - possibly even ZERO, since the typically LAZY definition includes no LOWER limit, just a minus sign. GIB is basically stating that HCP can be GREATER than "total" points, which is utterly ridiculous. This is not an isolated case of a single bad definition that slipped through the cracks - this is a COMMON, FREQUENTLY REPEATED theme that crops up time and time again when the pathetic GIB definitions refer to HCP and "total" points. This is an unacceptable mistruth that GIB repeats over and over and over again. GIB is GARBAGE.

GIB definitions, like the GIBBO system and robots, are hopeless from start to finish, from top to bottom, from beginning to end. They are ALL so dramatically BROKEN that they are irreparable. Don't even TRY to fix them, because unless you have a spare 10 thousand years with nothing else to occupy your time, it will be impossible. The ROT is too deep, too widespread, too intertwined. Do yourself AND the WORLD a favour: Toss all this GIB/GIBBO garbage into an incinerator, a trash compactor, or the world's deepest landfill...and start over with DECENT robots, a DECENT system, and DECENT definitions.

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Posted 2026-July-02, 07:42

Braindead 3H bid by the always clueless GIBBO robot in the East. If the ignorant halfwit chooses to compete, it should be via 3D, not 3H. As is SO often the case, the useless piece of grime doesn't even respect his own GIB definition.

Then the GIBBO piece of trash in the West, with his foolish, unjustified raise to 4H, buries his "partner" for competing. These two losers deserve each other, but NO ONE ELSE does. Please remove the GIBBO robots from BBO and replace them with DECENT ones.

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Posted 2026-July-02, 07:47

Although things worked out well for NS, North's 4H is a stupid bid of the type beloved by the repulsive GIBBO robots.

The GIB definition of West's double - as compared to his actual hand - is the usual pathetic joke.

GIB/GIBBO = garbage.

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Posted 2026-July-02, 07:52

Why is North bidding 2NT instead of 3D? Is it the hopeless, antiquated GIBBO bidding system that's to blame, or is it the innate stupidity and total lack of judgment of the contemptible GIBBO robots?

Needless to say, the EW "defence" is pathetic.

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Posted 2026-July-02, 15:40

The usual lazy, unimaginative, gutless trump lead, followed by a wimpy, cowardly "defence". Not exactly the toughest opponents to play against.

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Posted 2026-July-02, 15:54

West's 2D is defined as showing "5+ hearts; 5+ spades...". He actually has SEVEN hearts and (only) FOUR spades. Maybe a BETTER bid would have been 2C, showing an unspecified one-suiter. (Yes, I realize that once in a while 2D will strike paydirt, but he's not even CLOSE to respecting his own GIB definition.)

East's 4H is defined as showing "9+ HCP". He has only SIX. Additionally, the typically pathetic GIB definition AGAIN shows that GIB has absolutely NO understanding of "total" points. What a sick JOKE these GIB definitions are.

North's double is defined as showing "9-11 HCP". He has ONLY seven - two less than the MINIMUM "promised" and four less than the maximum "promised".

When the GIB definitions are as CONSISTENTLY rotten as they are, and when the GIBBO robots SO often ignore them anyway, what the Hell is the point of even having them? It's long past the time to REPLACE the useless robots and the worthless definitions.

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Posted 2026-July-02, 16:01

East...PASSES...over North's 2D opener. I have long suspected that the GIBBO robots breakfast on stupidity pills every morning, but does THIS dweeb toss a few cowardice pills into the bowl also?

Stupid lead, stupid continuation, considering that the reject in the West has J1086 in spades behind the spade bidder.

100 % for NS, another total zero for EW.

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Posted 2026-July-02, 16:07

North's 3S is questionable, but it certainly worked out well when the GIBBO robot in the West bid a typically C.R.E.T.I.N.O.U.S. 4H.

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Posted 2026-July-02, 16:14

This happened to work out fine: a shared top for taking 11 tricks in 4NT...but on some OTHER random layouts it could easily have been a bad score after North STUPIDLY bid 4S instead of just passing 3NT. These GIBBO monstrosities are worse than even the WORST human player I have ever encountered in many decades of play.

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Posted 2026-July-03, 06:50

What's that you're saying? "Ben, opening 1NT with your hand is nuts!"

Well, guess what: I agree with you 100 %, so why did I do it? Answer: Because I do a LOT of totally wacky things when I'm at a table with three GIBBO robots, because I know before the first card is even picked up that they are all complete M.O.R.O.N.s with no clue about how to play bridge. Consequently, I try to have "fun" by operating and "experimenting". Because the robots are such complete and utter dolts, the operations work out more often than not.

On THIS random hand, I should have opened SEVEN no trump, because it was ice cold the way these two incompetent rejects defended. At trick two, East spared me a diamond guess by his REMARKABLY stupid second-hand HIGH play (a basic tenet of the gone but NEVER lamented GIB robots, the horrid immediate predecessors of the also horrid GIBBO ones) of the diamond QUEEN (!) from Q9 dub. Maybe this CURSED jerk wanted to retain his CURSE of Scotland (ha, ha).

Then, shortly later, the dimwit in the West decided it would be a BRILLIANT idea to...pitch his spade guard. Spoiler alert: It WASN'T.

GIBBO robots are the pits!

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Posted 2026-July-03, 07:10

This worked out fine, as we scored 95.24 % for making 4D with two (!) overtricks (!), but if that's all there was to the story, I wouldn't have bothered posting the hand. I'm posting it to showcase a bidding habit/philosophy that I have been seeing the despicable GIBBO robots using for as long as I've been playing with them. When their "partner" makes a takeout double, they absolutely (and of COURSE stupidly!) LOVE...needlessly and IGNORANTLY...JUMPING to FOUR of a MINOR...thereby getting the worst of all possible worlds. Often they will get a minus instead of a plus for NEEDLESSLY being too high. Often they will have BYPASSED the BEST contract of 3NT. Often they will have jammed the auction and wasted so much bidding space that their "partnership" cannot intelligently investigate the best contract. GIBBO robots are brainless oafs. If John Steinbeck wrote about them, he'd have each one carrying a mouse in his pocket. He could call this sequel "Of Mice and...DWEEBS".

Note, by the way, the TYPICALLY hyper-annoying GIB definition of the stupid 4D call. GIB feels it's crucial (CRUCIAL, I tell you!) to begin the piece of trash definition with the three useless, unnecessary, obvious, irrelevant, pointless, hyper-annoying, insulting words "Jump in competition". REALLY? NO KIDDING, GIB? He actually JUMPED? Wow! I guess NOBODY noticed that! And....it was in COMPETITION? Who would EVER have guessed?

Seriously, why do BBO users have to see this type of useless, condescending drivel over and over and over again?

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Posted 2026-July-03, 07:19

Same hand as the one in post # 2032 immediately above, but from a different table. This was the only NS pair that beat our score. They bid 5C and made an overtrick, thanks to a typically STUPID lead by the typically braindead piece of GIBBO garbage in the West. The imbecile, like ALL GIBBO robots, cannot BEAR even the THOUGHT of leading hearts...the suit that his "partner" OPENED, the suit that HE supported, and the suit that HE has the king and jack in. Consequently, EW fail to collect their ...THREE...TOP (!) tricks.

What a laugher! But PLEASE, oh ye apologists for and defenders of the GIBBO slime, PLEASE tell me AGAIN about how they are "better than most human players".

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Posted 2026-July-03, 07:37

We scored 73.08 % on this board for going down "only" one in 4S after the GIBBO M.O.R.O.N. (is there ANY other kind of GIBBO robot - of course not!) in the North stupidly (what else?) raised 3S to four for absolutely NO reason apart from the innate, overwhelming cluelessness that all GIBBO robots are "BORN" with.

The link below is to what happened at my table and at five others where the innocent humans were similarly VICTIMIZED by their repulsive and repugnant GIBBO "partners".

The FOLLOWING post (# 2035, immediately below this one) will show the same board but from one other table...where the North robot committed the same outlandish bidding atrocity, but the human was treated to a laughable GIBBO "defence" that allowed him to make the "impossible" hand.

Here's my table, but stay tuned for the COMEDY coming up in the next post.

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Posted 2026-July-03, 07:45

As promised in post #2034 immediately above, here's the table where EW allowed 4S to make. The FUNNIEST part happens at trick 5, where for absolutely NO reason, the ALWAYS hopeless GIBBO piece of trash in the East POPS his spade ace, thereby CRASHING his "partner's" king.

If you refer to GIBBO robots as "pond scum", you are rendering a serious insult to...pond scum!

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Posted 2026-July-03, 08:06

Please remove GIB/GIBBO from BBO forever. It is worthless garbage. Please replace it with decent robots, a decent system, and decent definitions.
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Posted 2026-July-03, 08:59

Here is an example of what absolute garbage the GIBBO system is:

Over North's 3C, here is what some responses by South would show, according to the always pathetic GIB definitions:

3D: "4-5 clubs, 2 hearts" plus some other nonsense;
3H: "support third heart, no fourth club" plus some other nonsense;
3S: "4-5 clubs, 2 hearts" plus some other nonsense.

Note that the definitions of 3D and 3S are...EXACTLY THE SAME. In fact, EVEN the "some other nonsense" that I didn't bother writing is EXACTLY THE SAME...for the ENTIRE definitions of 3D and 3S.

Even ignoring how totally antiquated and hopeless the GIBBO system is, how on EARTH can ANY system be SO bad that it uses TWO calls to say EXACTLY THE SAME THING, thereby completely WASTING one of the calls that could be used for something else? Who the HELL thought that this was a good way to create a bidding system?

Note that there is NO way for South to show what he ACTUALLY happens to have on this random hand: four hearts AND four clubs. That's probably not crucial anyway, although GIBBO seems to THINK it is, since it devotes all its (redundant!) three level definitions to describing suit lengths. I ended up bidding 4D just as a JOKE/"experiment" and as my own attempt at slapping GIBBO in the face for providing such a futile, WORTHLESS atrocity of a system.

Note the absolute STUPIDITY (as usual) of the GIB definition of 4D, which basically says NOTHING except that South has (first) "5- diamonds" (which literally means ZERO to five) and (later) "rebiddable diamonds". WHICH...IS..IT, GIB? Good grief, you have the WORST definitions I have EVER seen ANYWHERE; and not JUST in bridge. Among other things, this particular piece of REFUSE claims that 4D shows "15- HCP". "15-" LITERALLY means ZERO to 15...but South OPENED (!) 1NT, which IMMEDIATELY promised 15-17! And even once we get past the utter inanity and insanity of this piece of garbage definition, why would it even be of ANY use whatsoever on THIS auction at THIS point for South to show long diamonds...when he and his "partner" are already at the FOUR level...and his "partner" has shown...HEARTS AND CLUBS???!!!

I first began playing GIB robot games in 2017. I have played many, MANY GIB/GIBBO games, yet astonishingly, each and every day that I play, they exhibit NEW atrocities that I have never seen before. They have an UNENDING supply of stupidity. They are far and away the worst, most repulsive, most GROSSLY incompetent "bridge players: I have EVER encountered or can even IMAGINE ever encountering. They are STUNNINGLY bad. They are a huge pimple on the face of bridge. They are an embarrassment to the game and to BBO.

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Posted 2026-July-03, 09:43

Regardless of result, regardless of layout, regardless of anything else, why is the stinking piece of garbage in the North leading his king of SPADES from K5 dub on THIS auction...especially when he has J875 of hearts? Why the HELL would this absolute M.O.R.O.N. not just make the NORMAL lead of a club?

Sorry, silly questions. The answer to both is that he's a GIBBO robot, which means that he has no IDEA what he's doing and has no IDEA about how to play bridge.

Please remind me what the "I" in "GIB" stands for. I'll take some guesses first:

Ignorant? Incompetent? Imbecilic? Irreparable? Inane? Insane? I.D.I.O.T.I.C.? Inconsistent? Incomparably stupid? Inferior? Illogical? Insipid? Incoherent? Incorrect? Insignificant?

What? NONE of my guesses are correct? Well then, what DOES the "I" stand for in "GIB"?

"Intelligent"? INTELLIGENT???!!! To quote John McEnroe, "You have GOT to be kidding"!!! GIB is the LEAST "intelligent" "bridge player" I have EVER encountered in my long, long LIFE!

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Posted 2026-July-03, 10:05

Fairly flat result of 53.6 % for NS and 46.4 for EW, but:

1. Why does North bid two hearts in response to South's takeout double? Hearts is his WORST suit (743 tripleton!) AND it is the suit MOST likely to encourage South to bid on...which is NOT something North would want to happen! Furthermore, it is the HIGHEST of the three unbid suits, so it is the LEAST flexible and takes up the MOST space. It's wrong on ALL counts...which I guess explains why the absolutely and always M.O.R.O.N.I.C. GIBBO robot chose it!
2. Why doesn't East double 2H?
3. Why does North lead a diamond? If he wants to lead from strength, he should lead a club, and if he wants to lead from weakness, he should lead a heart. A diamond gets NEITHER objective done, AND a diamond is the lead MOST likely to blow a defensive trick.
4. After winning his spade queen at trick four, North immediately plays ANOTHER spade at trick five. WHY?

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Posted 2026-July-03, 10:44

Here's a perfect example of why it often pays to bid like a madman against the total garbage known as GIBBO robots:

ANY decent pair would DESTROY me in 3NT and then laugh loudly as they told me to go take some bidding lessons. They would start by rattling off five quick heart tricks, and then they would take at LEAST the club ace in addition. I would be down at LEAST two.

Against these nauseating GIBBO monstrosities, however, I will continue to bid like this, because they are SO totally clueless and SO mind-blowingly stupid that it frequently pays off, as it did here. I scored 100 % (not at ALL surprisingly) and these contemptible slimebags got one of their VERY common complete zeroes.

West actually found the NORMAL and best lead of a heart. (Alert the press!) His "partner" East won the king at trick one. (I hear the ghost of Eddie Kantar saying "nice play".) At trick two, East actually returned his partner's suit! Wow! (Alert the press again!). He even returned the correct heart, the 10! Golly gee, I'm afraid we'll have to alert the press a third time! These guys are on fire with their defence!

But, alas, all good things must come to an end, and now the absolute C.R.E.T.I.N. in the East falls from grace and reveals his TRUE colours as a total imbecile and one of the worst "bridge players" the UNIVERSE has ever seen. The witless ignoramus SHIFTS (!!!) to a diamond! Stupidity THIS pathetic should be put under glass in a museum so that future generations can gaze at it in awe until the end of time!

Not being blessed with the second sight to know that my diamond TEN would win, I took my ace and hooked a spade...which won. I then played a diamond back to my hand, optimistically thinking that I might make a lot of tricks. Alas, I STILL lacked second sight, so I was STILL unaware that my 10 would win - OR that diamonds were 4-1 -, so I won my KING, which now meant that I could take ONLY a total of THREE diamonds, including the two I had already won. That was the BAD news, but there was also very, VERY, VERY good news, because the ASTOUNDINGLY stupid GIBBO I.D.I.O.T. in the West pitched a spade (!!!) on this diamond trick! A spade of all things! By pitching (!) his spade guard, this harebrained piece of slime allowed me to repeat the spade finesse and score ALL of dummy's spades.

GIBBO robots are the WORST. They rot.

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