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#1 User is offline   Edmunte1 

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Posted 2007-June-25, 06:34

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(pass)-pass -(1♥)- ?

Teams, you're sitting South.

1) What's your bid?

2) If you double and bidding goes
(pass) - pass - (1♥) - dbl
(1♠) --- pass -- (2♦) - ?

What is your choice now?
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Posted 2007-June-25, 06:46

I would not, repeat not, double.
I would either overcall 2C or pass.
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  Posted 2007-June-25, 06:49

I wholeheartedly agree with Frances, with pass being a more standout action due to style (I rarely overcall 5 card minors unless decent hand).
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Posted 2007-June-25, 07:05

Hi,

#0 why do you believe the bid a psych?
unless you hold 10 cards in hearts,
and 1H promises 5+, the bid is possible,
I am nice requireing a 10 carder, because we
do talk about a 3rd seat opener, and maybe he
opens Kxxx in hearts, because he believes
is a good suit.

#1 2C, I have a 5 card suit, I bid it, X is crap.
What do you do if partner jumps to 3S or
even to 4S (may happen, in case he holds
a flawed weak two in spades)?

#2 would not be there, but having replaced a
man who got a heart attack after he realized
the bid he made, pass, what else?
Do you have a fit, do you want to find out,
if your opponenents know how to use the red
card?

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Posted 2007-June-25, 07:08

I cannot imagine Dbl with this hand, I would overcall 2♣.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 07:34

I would overcall 2♣, as the auction is less likely to pass out if I do that than if I pass.

I would sooner double than pass.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 08:11

Obvious 2♣ , who would take another bid over opps 2x?
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Posted 2007-June-25, 08:12

I would bid 2C, and I would rather pass than double.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-June-25, 08:21

2clubs.

Hopefully partner will not punish us for making a light overcall but sometimes you just got to take a risk.

I understand those who prefer to pass.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 08:42

anything but double. 2C looks right. Pass works best if +200 is a good result. If RHO is psyching both suit and hand, we could get +300 and miss a heart slam. If RHO is not psyching, then partner is likely to reopen with a double and we will get a juicy result.

I have opened a monster 2-suiter 1-of-a-suit and got passed out before, so bidding 2C and getting passed out is no different.

50/50 between pass and 2C.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 10:24

1. 2♣
2. Dbl would never come up in my mind with this hand...
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Posted 2007-June-25, 10:59

If 2♣ is clear and the auction was:

(pass) - pass - (1♥) - 2♣
(x) --- pass -- (2♦) - ?

Do you have another bid?
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"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
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Posted 2007-June-25, 11:06

jillybean2, on Jun 25 2007, 11:59 AM, said:

If 2♣ is clear and the auction was:

(pass) - pass - (1♥) - 2♣
(x) --- pass -- (2♦) - ?

Do you have another bid?
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Pass is my second bid.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 11:09

I don't need another bid (right now). I have a partner. If she has anything at all, and since she is surely short in hearts, she can re-open after 2♦ goes pass-pass. That's perhaps unlikely, but then again, sometimes, when you are fixed, it pays to stay fixed. I would pass 2♦.

Edit: or, err... what Mike said.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 11:29

ok maybe I am being really stupid here (not the first time), but surely x and then bid clubs shows a monster hand with clubs
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Posted 2007-June-25, 11:58

Yes, X then ♣ shows a monster. But when 1/3 of your points are in the opp's suit, your hand is not as monstrous as it first appears. If your partner has anything, it's likely in ♠, where it's not very useful. You're going to want to take finesses against RHO -- how do you expect to get to dummy to do this?

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Posted 2007-June-25, 12:02

I'm gonna pass 2♦.

- If it's passed, lead the ♦K and expect a couple down.
- If LHO bids 2♠ and it comes back to me, I'll dbl.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 12:09

We aren't sure RHO psyched. If I had a 6th or 7th heart, I'd be more concerned.

I'll pass. There's a lot of spades floating around out there and I don't think it will go pass - pass - pass.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 12:16

The trouble with X and then bid clubs, is what do you do when partner bids 3/4S over the dbl? Still want to X? After all, partner could easily have 7330 with 7 spades to the K and out and being vul vs not, not want to open 2/3S. But over the dbl, will make a preemptive jump in spades.

A dbl promises 3 cards in unbid majors. It is outdated to "dbl and bid your own suit" with a strong hand and shortness in the other major. Esp with a suit that is not self-sufficient.
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Posted 2007-June-25, 12:35

jillybean2, on Jun 25 2007, 11:59 AM, said:

If 2♣ is clear and the auction was:

(pass) - pass - (1♥) - 2♣
(x) --- pass -- (2♦) - ?

Do you have another bid?
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pass.

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