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Fluffy, on Jun 26 2007, 05:11 AM, said:

foo, on Jun 26 2007, 09:52 AM, said:

Advancer's pass then 4♣ bid is aweful.

Either
a= raise to 3♣ and pass forevermore, or
b= pass,  ...and pass overcaller's X if he makes one on the 2nd round.

vs this 3♠, EW should get 5 tricks:  2 ♥'s + 1 ♦ + 2 ♣'s
Yes, this is lucky.  and Yes, on some days vs other 3♠'s They will take 9 tricks.

But N has =no= ruffing potential and =no= values.
Stinky as it is, it's considerably easier to take 5 tricks rather than 10...

Pass 3♠? Partner cannot beat this contract himself, -300 is better than -630

Before being resulting its better to look closer because 3♠ makes against any defence

It's not as simple as some seem to be claiming.
NS have the ♥AK, the ♣AK, and the ♦Q is offside.
That's 5 tricks unless Opener can get 9 fast enough.

Opening from N is ♦x. E must rise or NS can simply cash out for -1.

On T2, E can not play a ♦ or the ♠6 since that will cause -1.
Let's say E plays trump honor and does not overtake or play ♠T (-1 if so).

T3, Declarer continues to draw trumps with the ♠J
(Dummy still can not play ♦'s or ♠6 w/o going -1)
S discards an encouraging ♣
Again Declarer must follow small or it's -1.

T4. Now Declarer has to stop pulling trump or they go -1.
♣ or ♥ are the only safe cards from E. Let's say a ♥ is played from Dummy.
S plays 2nd low as they ought.
Declarer must play ♥Q from hand or 3♠ is -2.

etc. Yes, 3♠ makes DD. But the correct line is a tightrope that is relatively easy to fall off of.

[Codo]

Echognome, on Jun 26 2007, 06:40 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

(1♦) - 2♣- (2♠) - P
(3♠) - Dbl - (P) - 4♣
(P) - P - (Dbl) - All Pass

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The only reason opps must struggle a little to make 3♠ is the 2-2 ♣ break. If clubs were 3-1 the contract would alway be laydown, even if we make small changes (as switching ♦Q/K).

Maybe I have a blind spot, but if declarer has a 5341 hand and his pd 3343, they have more problems in making 3 Spade then now,or?
You start with two rounds of club, ruffed. Lets say he tried 2 rounds of trump and continues with?
I did not analyse in depth, but it is not too easy to handle this hand single dummy.

[nige1]

Echognome, on Jun 26 2007, 02:16 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

(1♦) - 2♣ - (2♠) - P
(3♠) - ?

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Do you agree with 2♣?

What is your call now?

IMO...
[A] 2 ♣ = 10, X = 5
[B] X = 10, P = 5, 3 N = 2, 4 ♣ = 1