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Battling Preempts-1

Poll: Your call? (38 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. PASS (32 votes [84.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 84.21%

  2. DOUBLE (5 votes [13.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.16%

  3. OTHER (1 votes [2.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.63%

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#1 User is online   mike777 

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Posted 2007-June-27, 13:06

Scoring: MP

(3C)=P=P=?


Your call and why?
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Posted 2007-June-27, 13:13

3NT, gotta reopen with something, wouldn't be surprised to see RHO with club void, so breaks aren't gonna be nice on a trump contract.
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Posted 2007-June-27, 13:27

suck it up and...pass.
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Posted 2007-June-27, 13:37

Obvio pass
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Posted 2007-June-27, 13:44

Fluffy, on Jun 27 2007, 02:13 PM, said:

3NT, gotta reopen with something, wouldn't be surprised to see RHO with club void, so breaks aren't gonna be nice on a trump contract.

If this is the case, they will be equally as bad in a NT contract and you have no source of tricks. But by defening 3C, you may well go +200.

On the other hand, it is more likely partner has 1-2 clubs and a hand so weak that it could not act in the direct seat. If this is the case, you're hosed when you bid 3N.

Pass.
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
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Posted 2007-June-27, 13:52

If we missed something, they got me. Next.
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Posted 2007-June-27, 13:53

For the passers out there, would it be different at IMPs? At a different vulnerability?
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Posted 2007-June-27, 14:00

If I do not pass with this hand, which
hand I need?

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2007-June-27, 14:01

jtfanclub, on Jun 27 2007, 02:53 PM, said:

For the passers out there, would it be different at IMPs? At a different vulnerability?

No.

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Posted 2007-June-27, 14:30

Pass at both form of scoring. Sometimes preempts work
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Posted 2007-June-27, 14:49

jtfanclub, on Jun 27 2007, 11:53 AM, said:

For the passers out there, would it be different at IMPs? At a different vulnerability?

Nope; pass at all forms.
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Posted 2007-June-27, 14:55

jtfanclub, on Jun 27 2007, 02:53 PM, said:

For the passers out there, would it be different at IMPs? At a different vulnerability?

No, and no.

I could agree that a double might work but I think it is more likely to go wrong.
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Posted 2007-June-27, 15:36

Jlall, on Jun 27 2007, 07:27 PM, said:

suck it up and...pass.

indeed
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Posted 2007-June-27, 17:56

mike777, on Jun 27 2007, 02:06 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

(3C)=P=P=?


Your call and why?

IMO P =10 3N=7 X = 4
If partner is short in clubs, He has few HCP; so pass seems circumspect.
if its your hand and partner has values, then he also has club length. Hence, if you decide to bid, you should try to avoid a club ruff, by bidding 3N.
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Posted 2007-June-27, 18:45

erm?

Do I have a 4-3-3-3 12 count with QJx under the opener?

Why would i want to bid?
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Posted 2007-June-27, 19:36

Pass

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Posted 2007-June-28, 02:15

jtfanclub, on Jun 27 2007, 02:53 PM, said:

For the passers out there, would it be different at IMPs? At a different vulnerability?

It does make a difference to me. I am doubling because it is MPs (still battling the part score). I agree with pass in IMPs because of the risk involved.

Steven
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Posted 2007-June-28, 03:29

With a regular partner, I double here, because our 2nd seat bids over a preempt are very sound.
With a pickup partner, who would overcall a preempt with any possible hand, this is a clear pass.
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Posted 2007-June-28, 03:42

Pass is obvious.

Given what we know about the hand opposite, I will happily admit that I may not be able to get to the right spot on these two hands.
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Posted 2007-June-28, 04:20

Pass. I lack the imagination to do anything else.
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