[H_KARLUK]

Hi all Merry Xmas and a happy new year ♥

I would like to create "Invited pairs - For forum members only" IMPs clocked event.
33 boards. Predealt hands. 5 minutes per board. 11 rounds. Nonplaying TD/s. I am Ok to reduce board counts & rounds & increase time per round due to a consensus.

ACBL GCC rules.

Please drop a note here with BBO screen name about available times and day/s.

In case more than 30 tables co-TD/s need. (When the blind leadeth the blind get out of th way )

Thanks.

Hamdi

[han]

Nice idea Hamdi. I'd like to play but 33 boards is a bit much and 5 minutes per hand is too quick imo. The weekend would work well for me, I live on the east coast of the US.

I don't think you have to worry about 30+ tables.

[Cascade]

Is forcing pass allowed?

[H_KARLUK]

Cascade, on Dec 16 2008, 09:38 PM, said:

Is forcing pass allowed? 

I can also serve only for forcing pass and/or with artificial club sys tournament.

You are expected to know ACBL GCC rules as their ACBL on BBO online TD

[TylerE]

If you really want a decent longer length game, I'd suggest

A: Slower timer
B: Run multiple, shorter tourneys in a survivor format. I'd say aim to have 8 pairs or so in the final round, with appropriate cuts in the first couple to hit that target. Say 3 events x 12 boards each.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

Nice idea.

5 min is too fast, I think it may also make sense to choose
a other chart than ACBL GCC, maybe mid chart (?!).
The reason for the later, the forum has several players from
out side N/A.

Another issue maybe: Are partners alowed, if they dont post
any thing on the forum?
I think restricting the participants to the forum makes sense,
but you need to increase the amount of peoble allowed.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: weekend, europe (germany)

[gwnn]

no predealt hands pls.

[han]

I think it would be fun to have any system allowed. Since we have a wide variety of players, from beginners to world class (hopefully), I think it would be a good idea to allow a little discussion if gadgets come up that people are really unfamiliar with.

A GCC event would be fine as well although it would be quite restrictive. No transfers after 1C for example.

[cherdano]

Any system is allowed. Anyone playing non-midchart method has to start a thread on BBF to discuss the best defense at least 4 days before the tournament
(I think BBF will be more responsive than the defense-subcommittee of the C&C committe...)

[H_KARLUK]

cherdano, on Dec 16 2008, 11:27 PM, said:

Any system is allowed. Anyone playing non-midchart method has to start a thread on BBF to discuss the best defense at least 4 days before the tournament
(I think BBF will be more responsive than the defense-subcommittee of the C&C committe...)

Unless I'm wrong, how come any online TD expected to rule about ANY SYSTEM that have never idea? Is it really practical? In the meantime you mean to say the entire BBO TDs are expected to fully understand ALL BRIDGE SYSTEMS and ALL COUNTRIES APPLICATIONS? Sorry, I cannot do it.

Why does it seem like whenever I read a magic scenario they're trying to give me their reasons? Is not it argumentative?

There were an adjective and a noun using together with to define exemption or freedom from something burdensome or otherwise unpleasant, as a legal obligation. What was it?

Maybe you are not supposed to answer those questions.

[jdonn]

H_KARLUK, on Dec 16 2008, 10:54 PM, said:

Maybe you are not supposed to answer those questions.

I don't think I could answer them if I tried. Reading them took enough out of me!

I would certainly vote for allowing any/all methods. If not there, then where?

[TylerE]

No. Honestly, in most cases the TD should not really be regulating system. If there's MI or less than full disclourse, that is of course something that must be dealt with, but that's a totally seperate issue. Also, honestly, by and large, pairs playing unusual stuff practice far more complete and honest disclosure than pairs playing "natural" systems, who often assume that everyone plays what ever quirks are common in their locality.

[H_KARLUK]

H_KARLUK, on Dec 17 2008, 05:54 AM, said:

There were an adjective and a noun using together with to define exemption or freedom from something burdensome or otherwise unpleasant, as a legal obligation. What was it?

Bingo !

It was "diplomatic immunity". Oh how careless I am, why i do that.

Anyway, am i started off on the wrong foot remembered "persona non grata" stories?

Your wishes and objections are noted.

[han]

I didn't understand your question either Hamdi, must be the language barrier I think.

As for cherdano, he's been posting less but still wants to make the same number of jokes, I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.

[H_KARLUK]

Rehi my friend Han,

If there will be a consensus that guarantees when any system is allowed it would not become a fiasco; I would gladly be host of that nice tournament. I want to see forum members as partners at table soon starting a new year. Who knows most of them like and need to schedule such events.

The idea about diplomats sample that they have diplomatic immunity. Under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations Article 9, a receiving State may "at any time and without having to explain its decision" declare any member of a diplomatic staff persona non grata. A person so declared is considered unacceptable and is usually recalled to his or her home nation. If not recalled, the receiving State "may refuse to recognize the person concerned as a member of the mission."

While diplomatic immunity protects mission staff from prosecution for violating civil and criminal laws, depending on rank, under Articles 41 and 42 of the Vienna Convention, they are bound to respect national laws and regulations (amongst other issues). Breaches of these articles can lead to persona non grata being used to 'punish' erring staff.

In other words "yr home yr rules". Frankly speaking, sorry for now i only worked ACBL GCC. I do not count myself as #1 online TD. What I am sure with mutual understanding and tolerance we can together easily overcome many difficulties. I respect goodwill.

Folks, give me alternatives please to balance Tournament rules specific to event. I will say "it's a deal" if blocks to fall into disagreement at tables with each other.

But if anytime and anyone points out another bunch of Bridge Laws and if there will be in conformity with mutual agreement then count me in please. I like to work hard and to do my best.

Regards
Hamdi

This post has been edited by H_KARLUK: 2008-December-17, 00:17

[helene_t]

H_KARLUK, on Dec 17 2008, 07:03 AM, said:

If there will be a consensus that guarantees when any system is allowed it would not become a fiasco;

Most BBO tourneys allow everything. A few TDs ban multi and Polish Club, so obviously some prefer restrictions.

Anyway, if you are host, you decide. FWIW I prefer all systems allowed.

[H_KARLUK]

Thank you very much Helene_T.

Maybe you excuse me about FWIW. Mind type full meaning? Sorry, I do not know.

It may hard to please everybody, i may fail. I feel nobody can complaint when the community pick their own specific rules.

For now it seems only ACBL GCC is problem.

[helene_t]

H_KARLUK, on Dec 17 2008, 11:10 AM, said:

Thank you very much Helene_T.

Maybe you excuse me about FWIW. Mind type full meaning? Sorry, I do not know.

It may hard to please everybody, i may fail. I feel nobody can complaint when the community pick their own specific rules.

For now it seems only ACBL GCC is problem.

FWIW means "for what it's worth".

[H_KARLUK]

Okay Helene_t, point taken.
Hamdi

[CSGibson]

I'd be interested. Saturdays would work for me usually, and occasionally on Sunday. Since this is an international event, I could even be flexible about start time.